The End of Nova Thread

[Guns of Navarone]

In the words of Olympic gold medallist wrestler Kurt Angle "Oh its true its true", AT's will not be paid until next tuesday - someone took a photo with keitai of the fax sent by the AAM who learned at 12:50pm today and immediately sent a fax.
Wonder how long before the deepest humblest regret bullshit fax will come from Sahashi.
Sahashi seems to be a macho dude, must have a bit of bushido in him, wonder if the thoughts of self stomach surgery have crossed his mind?

[ex_sensei]

My AAM called me at 1:10 PM in my branch and told me:

TI won't get paid until next Tuesday.

I have lost all faith in the company. The signs are on the wall!

Ex

[novawhiz]

I'm gonna have to give CBR a "second" here.

You own your own school/business, but really, if you think about it logically, what does that prove?

After all, Nozomu Saruhashi ran the largest chain of English schools in Japan for 20-some years. Do we respect HIS opinions?

There are some major differences between your boss and me. He is old school business and in old school they like to do it as it's always been done, I come from a different bread of business generation. One that listens to staff and customers and allows them to have an input and the feeling of being part of the business. I also do profit sharing. what was your last "bonus"?

Saruhashi has no respect because he doesn't give any. His company is is suiciding and he is responsible for it, just as he was for it's growth. He didn't listen to the share holders when he was, person for person, outvoted on the NOVA KIDS idea (but he and a few cronies had the shares in the company had they pushed it through, old Japanese style). The re has been conflict between shareholders for years and he won't listen. And now that he has to change, it is too late. He should have seen this coming, as I did in March 2006, and mind you he has a heap more help and more information on his own company but he thought he know better, guess he was wrong, huh?

Sounds like you have alot of good things going for your business. keep in mind the old adage "we don't know what we don't know". When Nova goes down, alot of things could happen....there might be a slew of articles condemning chain schools and idolizing smaller ones....there might also be articles on a lack of merit in eikaiwa. Like any Pandora's box, good things and bad things will come out. As you obviously already know, the further you distance yourself from Nova and chain school eikaiwa the better....but so long as you are operating an eikaiwa you exists in the same economic biosphere. If the air gets poisoned it'll be impossible not to take a lung full.

[novawhiz]

My AAM called me at 1:10 PM in my branch and told me.

TI won't get paid until next Tuesday.

I have lost all faith in the company. The signs are on the wall!

Ex

Holy shit, any reason given?

I would imagine that there's a fax stating something like "Saruhashi feels he is very close to being able to shit gold, we expect him to lay some solid gold cable any minute now, we'll have it all sorted out by Tues"

[Burly.]

I'm gonna have to give CBR a "second" here.

You own your own school/business, but really, if you think about it logically, what does that prove?

After all, Nozomu Saruhashi ran the largest chain of English schools in Japan for 20-some years. Do we respect HIS opinions?

There are some major differences between your boss and me. He is old school business and in old school they like to do it as it's always been done, I come from a different bread of business generation. One that listens to staff and customers and allows them to have an input and the feeling of being part of the business. I also do profit sharing. what was your last "bonus"?

Saruhashi has no respect because he doesn't give any. His company is is suiciding and he is responsible for it, just as he was for it's growth. He didn't listen to the share holders when he was, person for person, outvoted on the NOVA KIDS idea (but he and a few cronies had the shares in the company had they pushed it through, old Japanese style). The re has been conflict between shareholders for years and he won't listen. And now that he has to change, it is too late. He should have seen this coming, as I did in March 2006, and mind you he has a heap more help and more information on his own company but he thought he know better, guess he was wrong, huh?

Sounds like you have alot of good things going for your business. keep in mind the old adage "we don't know what we don't know". When Nova goes down, alot of things could happen....there might be a slew of articles condemning chain schools and idolizing smaller ones....there might also be articles on a lack of merit in eikaiwa. Like any Pandora's box, good things and bad things will come out. As you obviously already know, the further you distance yourself from Nova and chain school eikaiwa the better....but so long as you are operating an eikaiwa you exists in the same economic biosphere. If the air gets poisoned it'll be impossible not to take a lung full.

My eyes are wide open and I see everything.

[novawhiz]

I'm gonna have to give CBR a "second" here.

You own your own school/business, but really, if you think about it logically, what does that prove?

After all, Nozomu Saruhashi ran the largest chain of English schools in Japan for 20-some years. Do we respect HIS opinions?

There are some major differences between your boss and me. He is old school business and in old school they like to do it as it's always been done, I come from a different bread of business generation. One that listens to staff and customers and allows them to have an input and the feeling of being part of the business. I also do profit sharing. what was your last "bonus"?

Saruhashi has no respect because he doesn't give any. His company is is suiciding and he is responsible for it, just as he was for it's growth. He didn't listen to the share holders when he was, person for person, outvoted on the NOVA KIDS idea (but he and a few cronies had the shares in the company had they pushed it through, old Japanese style). The re has been conflict between shareholders for years and he won't listen. And now that he has to change, it is too late. He should have seen this coming, as I did in March 2006, and mind you he has a heap more help and more information on his own company but he thought he know better, guess he was wrong, huh?

Sounds like you have alot of good things going for your business. keep in mind the old adage "we don't know what we don't know". When Nova goes down, alot of things could happen....there might be a slew of articles condemning chain schools and idolizing smaller ones....there might also be articles on a lack of merit in eikaiwa. Like any Pandora's box, good things and bad things will come out. As you obviously already know, the further you distance yourself from Nova and chain school eikaiwa the better....but so long as you are operating an eikaiwa you exists in the same economic biosphere. If the air gets poisoned it'll be impossible not to take a lung full.

My eyes are wide open and I see everything.

I got some of those x-ray vision sunglasses from the back of a comic book, lemme know if you need me to break them out

[Burly.]

BTW just got another trial lesson booked in.

[MK]

Hey all...

first post, been lurking for a few months....

I just got the notice from OVA accomodation that I'm out of my apartment at the end of the month due to....drumroll...non payment of rent.

[meowsa]

My opinion, although based on nothing but opinion... is that rather than go BOOM and be destroyed as most people seem to be waiting for ... will be bought out by another corporation, management changed... most likely less school branches. This is also what I discussed with a NOVA recruiting agent lately. If worst comes to worst that is...

[allblacks]

Doesnt this mean war? Are we talking about ALL TIs across Japan?

How the hell are they gonna hold the branches together in the sticks without their TIs?

How does that logic work?

[allblacks]

Hey all...

first post, been lurking for a few months....

I just got the notice from OVA accomodation that I'm out of my apartment at the end of the month due to....drumroll...non payment of rent.

You should notify them right back that you require six months notice to move.

[Burly.]

Doesnt this mean war? Are we talking about ALL TIs across Japan?

How the hell are they gonna hold the branches together in the sticks without their TIs?

How does that logic work?

Wanna promotion??


Back later I have to go to the bank.

[Edogaijin]

Hey all...

first post, been lurking for a few months....:)

I just got the notice from OVA accomodation that I'm out of my apartment at the end of the month due to....drumroll...non payment of rent.

Put your futon in the office and sleep at work.

[CynicalBeyondReason]

My eyes are wide open and I see everything.

Perhaps that is why you worried about ex-Nova workers undercutting you to the point where you imply you wouldn't mind seeing them deported.

[Schizm]

No pay for Shiga area AT's today. RAM just contacted all branch managers.

This probably means Kyoto too.

[In The Know]

Ive heard rumours that nova has missed the deposit for TIs again and are now saying Wed (this is second hand info, I must be honest!). Anybody else heard this?

Time to walk out boys and girls there will be no pays today!

Tell them you will return when the money is paid.

Return? WTF? Why? And to what? The door from NOVA, for anyone using it, should work only one way: OUT. Normally, I would say, "You couldn't pay me to work at NOVA" but they beat me to the punch on that one, the lying bankrupt corksuckers.

[In The Know]

My AAM called me at 1:10 PM in my branch and told me:

TI won't get paid until next Tuesday.

I have lost all faith in the company. The signs are on the wall!

Ex

To any J-staff that follow this board, you are screwed-- get out now! Don't show up for your shift and tell other J-staff to follow suit. Band together this time! I know it's hard, but...

You've already lost your summer bonus, your previous salary dates were delayed three times and now teachers are getting paid late. You're working for free now. Don't do the Japanese thing and stay loyal to Sahashi. He shows you no loyalty and gives you zero respect. Sore wa hontou no 'honne' desu. Gomen nasai.

[PanicInducingGaijin]

My opinion, although based on nothing but opinion... is that rather than go BOOM and be destroyed as most people seem to be waiting for ... will be bought out by another corporation, management changed... most likely less school branches. This is also what I discussed with a NOVA recruiting agent lately. If worst comes to worst that is...

There's nothing there to buy. It's a black hole of debt, it's got a brand name with negative value, it's got virtually no assets, and it's got no cash coming in.

[PanicInducingGaijin]

My AAM called me at 1:10 PM in my branch and told me:

TI won't get paid until next Tuesday.

I have lost all faith in the company. The signs are on the wall!

Ex

You may get paid next Tuesday, but I think you've been working for free all this month. I'm genuinely sorry to hear that you've been screwed, but it is time to bail, dude.

[In The Know]

Doesnt this mean war? Are we talking about ALL TIs across Japan?

How the hell are they gonna hold the branches together in the sticks without their TIs?

How does that logic work?

No, it is definitely possible for a branch function without a NOVA-brainwashed-- sorry-- trained-- TI. Granted, there won't be anyone there to make important decisions like:

1) Could you cinch up your tie?
2) You might want to buff those shoes
3) Your end-of-probation, mid-contract, etc. observation is coming up. (my favorite!)
4) If you have a free, you're still getting paid so ask the staff if they need some help. Thanks.
5) There's been some 'feedback' on your lesson style...

In fairness, I've worked with some great TIs. Others... well, it was obvious they somehow knew that this is as good as their life was ever going to be and they were going to revel in the TI 'position' and enjoy the 'power'.

[In The Know]

My AAM called me at 1:10 PM in my branch and told me:

TI won't get paid until next Tuesday.

I have lost all faith in the company. The signs are on the wall!

Ex

You may get paid next Tuesday, but I think you've been working for free all this month. I'm genuinely sorry to hear that you've been screwed, but it is time to bail, dude.

A big 'Amen', Brother Panic. They missed teacher salaries this month-- up to 10 days late-- staff Sept. salaries are next week (they are hopelessly fucked) and, don't forget, the staff was promised their summer bonus in October. That certainly won't happen. As the Japanese say, "daburu- panchu".

Let me highlight Brother Panic's main sermon point:

It is time to bail, dude!

[Edogaijin]

bump


:wink:

[chickenturkey]

Doesnt this mean war? Are we talking about ALL TIs across Japan?

How the hell are they gonna hold the branches together in the sticks without their TIs?

How does that logic work?

I don't know about in other parts of Japan, but the majority of the instructors in Northern Tohoku schools have been around for quite awhile and can get along fine without their TIs (actually a lot of them could probably do a better job than their TIs can).

[Japandy]

I've left early - can't stomach any more of this and I'm not going back until they pay me which probably means I'm never going back. So angry right now.

[gekikara26]

Australian embassy is making announcements......... Teachers being paid 10 days late( if they get it on Tuesday). What happens if it gets to pay day for the staff and instructors still havent been paid.
You guys really need to take action immediately. Dont resign as it will only affect your unemployment benefits and you may get some of the outstanding holiday pay backas well.
How many teachers does this involve exactly?. There are supposedly 5000 regular instructors so gaijin managers and ITs by my calculations would number close to a couple of thousand.
Dont live in hope, the end really is close. I beg you to go out on your terms. You owe the fuckers nothing!

[chickenturkey]

How many teachers does this involve exactly?. There are supposedly 5000 regular instructors so gaijin managers and ITs by my calculations would number close to a couple of thousand.
Dont live in hope, the end really is close. I beg you to go out on your terms. You owe the fuckers nothing!

When I extended my visa through Nova in 2006, the form they gave immigration listed the total number of foreign employees at around 5000. I left last Feb. so I have no idea what the total is now, but the number had gone down every year I had been there since 2004.

[novawhiz]

Hey all...

first post, been lurking for a few months....

I just got the notice from OVA accomodation that I'm out of my apartment at the end of the month due to....drumroll...non payment of rent.

no shock there.... they actually tell you it was because of non-payment? did you ask them what the F they were doing with the money you paid them for rent?

[amerikajin274]

Hey all...

first post, been lurking for a few months....

I just got the notice from OVA accomodation that I'm out of my apartment at the end of the month due to....drumroll...non payment of rent.

You should notify them right back that you require six months notice to move.

Unfortunately, he's powerless. He was actually a sub-lessee, renting from Nova, which doesn't actually own the property. A sub-lease probably only requires a 30-day dismissal as outlined in the rental agreement they signed upon arrival. I do think they are obligated to return his unused, prorated rental payments, but good luck getting that back at this point.

[oyabaka]

My opinion, although based on nothing but opinion... is that rather than go BOOM and be destroyed as most people seem to be waiting for ... will be bought out by another corporation, management changed... most likely less school branches. This is also what I discussed with a NOVA recruiting agent lately. If worst comes to worst that is...

yeah, umm.... that's kind of what I thought before my company went out of business in 1994. They even had "investors" that were paraded around the branches...
Even if you are paid, the fact that you were paid late should be warning sign- get out now.

[In The Know]

Australian embassy is making announcements......... Teachers being paid 10 days late( if they get it on Tuesday). What happens if it gets to pay day for the staff and instructors still havent been paid.
You guys really need to take action immediately. Dont resign as it will only affect your unemployment benefits and you may get some of the outstanding holiday pay backas well.
How many teachers does this involve exactly?. There are supposedly 5000 regular instructors so gaijin managers and ITs by my calculations would number close to a couple of thousand.
Dont live in hope, the end really is close. I beg you to go out on your terms. You owe the fuckers nothing!

Some clarification as I interpret things: they won't (can't) be paying October teacher and staff salaries, but they also won't declare a formal bankruptcy anytime soon. What that means for teachers that stay on longer or sensibly and abruptly quit now is this: no unemployment benefits. You can't lose by walking now.

Second point: expecting to have the government intervene and help you get your paid holidays PAID isn't going to happen. That could take years as Japan's justice system is notoriously glacial-pace. If you have paid holidays on the books now you are fucked. They can't make regular payroll! How the hell are they going to pay you for your holidays?

Third: even if and when you ever see an unemployment check, it will only be about 70% of your prior earnings-- if you get anything at all. Can you live on that? I can't, short of transforming myself into a gaijin hikkikomori (social recluse).

Fourth: do like I did. I resigned without notice yesterday after getting another full-time job lined up.

NOVA is in such a financial black hole that money due you (like light) cannot escape to get to you.