Cadence wrote:CPU; not made by Lenovo
Hard Drive; not made by Lenovo
Wifi card; not made by Lenovo
Monitor; which parts were breaking?
Lenovo don't make the parts; yeah no shit. Which part of "they buy the cheapest shit and therefore break" don't you understand?
Chill out mate. We are all on the same side here; we are aiming to pass on our knowledge and experience to someone in need of answers, not start a war.
Cadence wrote:The k320 IdeaCentre i recommended to Langslave is an incredible machine, and it seems you are just stirring things up for no reason other than attempting to demonstrate some kind of assumed 733t prowess.
I profess no "733t" prowess. I'm just stating my experience. Maybe it is a great machine and if he goes ahead and buys it, good luck to him. His money so his decision. I have a Dell and many ppl tell my how they are shit. Their experience so fine with me. But my experience has been good (so far). but then I researched the shit out of it and looked around for ages before buying so maybe my good experience comes down to my research, which is what Langslave is doing so good on him. You shouldn't get so bent out of shape if someone disagrees with you. Don't you work in IT or have experience working in IT? Then you'll know that everyone has a different opinion about hardware, software, and gadgets in general, even though those people are knowledgeable in "tech".
Agree with you on the research bit and also that we all have differing opinions on technology, but again, chill out. I think it is you who is getting 'bent out of shape'
Cadence wrote:Would not be troublesome at all.
Perhaps not for you nor I, but, and no offence at all intended to Langslave, as he has stated he is very much a computer novice he may
struggle. If he wants to give it a crack, then by all means do so cause I agree its not hard. I just don't like to give advice to people saying "yeah its piss easy" and they come back saying they found it difficult and, thx to said advice, farked something up.
Cadence wrote:Ubuntu / Linux Mint are the ones to go for when it comes to Linux, and are absolutely NOT difficult to use now.
The only Linux machines I use now have older versions of Ubuntu on them so maybe the latest version is as easy as you say (I prolly should put the latest version on my home pc and dual boot and mess around with it). If it is as easy as you say then yes Ubuntu is an excellent choice cause you can pick your language and its free. As I say plenty of help on the net too if you run into trouble. Plus there is a Linux version of most, if not all, apps the average person would use or at least comparable app. But people have been saying for yrs, even when I used Ubuntu, how easy it was even when I used it, even though I didn't think it was that easy (maybe they meant in comparison using a PC in the old days with DOS???).
Yeah, I think you should give the latest Ubuntu a go. Also try out Linux Mint (which is my OS of choice). Ubuntu will be moving to a Unity GUI soon, and abandoning GNOME as their main GUI which has ruffled a few feathers, but Linux Mint will be sticking with GNOME, and using the Ubuntu repositories for all updates so a lot of people are migrating.
MacGyver wrote:Apparently you guys are mates so once Langslave buys his new PC why not go around to his, install it for him, and show him the ropes? No really I'm being serious. Usually the easiest way to help someone out (giving support over the phone is such a pain when its so much easier just to go to their place and sort it out for them). I don't mean every little issue, just installing and giving him a tutorial for using the OS.
Thanks for that Dad; is it common courtesy for people who know eachother to do this? I wasn't aware! Any other advice you can give me on friendships / relationships would be most welcome. I have not managed to work any of this out so far in my 31 years on earth.
MacGyver wrote:I don't recommend Ubuntu or any version of Linux for the layman UNLESS they want to learn how to use it and about computing in general. I'm no expert but I don't consider myself a layman either and I installed Ubuntu on my old IBM laptop a few yrs back because it was old and slow with Windows and I wanted to learn about Ubuntu. I enjoyed using Ubuntu but at times I found doing some things a challenge (for example I found installing J fonts and an IME difficult and time-consuming whereas on Windows its a piece of piss). I found being familiar with the command window and DOS commands essential in the end. But on the other hand, the net is full of helpful advice and solutions from Ubuntu users so when you run into trouble, there is help out there.
I agree with Cadence here. You're talking about Linux distros a few years ago. They weren't very user-friendly. That's not the case now. I recently installed Ubuntu 10.10 and could not believe how freaking nice it was to use. There's no need to use a terminal or use apt to download software. It's all done via nice GUIs.
Setting up the Japanese input was simple, too. You choose your language and Ubuntu not only installs the input method but also the fonts. I love the fact that although I run the OS in English and my wife uses it in Japanese, Ubuntu is smart enough to know that when I download something that I need the Japanese language packs, too. At this stage, I'd say the biggest hurdle to adopting it is understanding how Linux does things differently than Windows.
If you need a PC to just surf the web and read email, Ubuntu has everything you you possibly need. I wouldn't hesitate in recommending Ubuntu now.
There you go! Someone else who is saying the exact same thing as me. Ubuntu or a derivative really is the thing to go for now. If there really is a feature of WIndows that you can not do without that Ubuntu can not provide (and at this stage, I honestly can not think of a single one), then you can always just install Windows in Virtualbox.
To pick apart what you said slightly, Shawn; I really don't think Ubuntu is just for people who use computers for surfing and email; it has everything that any other OS offers (I would argue MORE).