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And the next leader of the free world will be...

Obama. I am hoping it'll be Obama.
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Obama. However, I am hoping it'll be McCain.
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McCain. I am hoping it'll be McCain.
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McCain. However, I am hoping it'll be Obama.
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*Yawn*
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Re: And the next leader of the free world will be...

Unread post by Stick-Swinging Incident » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:20 pm

And here I thought 88 was just Junior's Nascar number. Dang Daisy!
14 thats a special day for me too :omfg:

Thing is, to be honest, I am surprised that there HASN'T been some sort of attempt before this. These could be 2 nut jobs looking for attention and just saying what they said is guarenteeing that they get it. But a serious plot and attempt hasn't appeared. I fully expected one to once Obama pulled ahead an looked like he was going to take it. A week to go... Here's hoping the Secret Service is giving some pointers to Obama's security... he is probably going to be their new boss!
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Unread post by Tall Tall Tree » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:29 pm

…Despite the fact that he is unqualified to work for them himself!

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Unread post by Stick-Swinging Incident » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:10 pm

Tall Tall Tree wrote:…Despite the fact that he is unqualified to work for them himself!
And Bush is? He's been their boss for 8 years! :omfg:
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Unread post by Shawn » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:51 am

Bwaahahahaha! Pure hilarity! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Palin spoke after touring Xunlight Corp., one of a handful of solar technology startup companies in Toledo, a struggling industrial city in this swing state. The city's leaders are hoping that the solar companies will create jobs to replace some of those lost by downsizing in the auto industry.

But Palin made only a passing reference to solar power in her speech and instead renewed her call for more drilling in U.S. coastal waters. She repeated her signature anthem, "drill, baby, drill," which seemed to fall a bit flat on the audience at the plant even as it's become a popular chant at her rallies.

What an embarrassment...

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Unread post by Wage Slave » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:41 pm

And she's on a roll now :rotfl:

Marc Antoine Audette convinced Alaska's governor she was speaking to Nicholas Sarkozy during a six-minute chat aired on a Montreal radio programme.
Topics discussed ranged from the beauty of Mr Sarkozy's wife, Carla Bruni, to the prospect of a joint hunting trip. ......Mr Audette said he would be keen to join her on a helicopter hunting trip.

"I just love killing those animals. Mmm, mmm, take away life, that is so fun," he said in an exaggerated French accent.
Her response was to laugh prettily. :eyes:
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Unread post by Wage Slave » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:48 pm

Courtesy of Private Eye:

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Unread post by Shawn » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:56 am

I thought the phone prank was too good to be true. I mean, they're supposed to screen Palin's calls, right? :?: They really did prank her. :mrgreen:
CBC wrote:A Montreal comedy duo who made a prank telephone call to Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin got their 15 minutes of fame Monday on U.S. network television.

The Masked Avengers (Justiciers Masqués) were flown to New York City for an appearance on CBS's morning show to talk about their weekend phone conversation with Palin that made international headlines.

Posing as Nicholas Sarkozy with a bad Pepé le Pew accent, comedian Marc-Antoine Audette chatted with Palin for several minutes on Saturday about hunting, politics and Carla Bruni before coming clean.

Palin played along beautifully, Audette told Early Show host Harry Smith.

"Once we started making jokes, she didn't seem to mind, and she didn't seem to be aware of the fact we were making jokes," he said during his live appearance on CBS.

"We were like 'Oh my God this is gonna be long.' "

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Unread post by SamhainP8 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:50 am

Love the stats they’re able to utilise during the election telecasts!
Percentage of White Voters, Evangelical Voters etc.
Can't wait to see the Amputee Voter results :eyes:
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Unread post by Wage Slave » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:33 pm

Looks to be all over. Obama has taken Pennsylvania and Ohio so now only needs to hold the safe Democratic states to win. Pundits are forecasting 330-360 electoral college votes. A big win is on the cards.
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Unread post by Shawn » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:47 pm

That's for sure. Obama will be the next president of the United States in a few more hours. :clap:

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Unread post by Wage Slave » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:53 pm

Yep :cheers: It was pretty important that this went the way it has. The far right have way overreached themselves and fallen right out of the tree. Well done America - a defining moment. It is still pretty difficult to imagine a European or Australasian country with a black leader.
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Unread post by Shawn » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:59 pm

Florida is still close. :roll:

In the end, I think Obama wins because he claimed the center/moderates. The GOP has tilted way over to the right. They can thank Bush for that.

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Unread post by Wage Slave » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:09 pm

Shawn wrote:Florida is still close. :roll:
So is Virginia of all places though :shock:
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Re: And the next leader of the free world will be...

Unread post by Tokyo_Joe » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:37 pm

Shawn wrote:Florida is still close. :roll:

In the end, I think Obama wins because he claimed the center/moderates. The GOP has tilted way over to the right. They can thank Bush for that.
Just came in to bump this, and emphasize what Shawn said up there.

My pick was always Obama, and I have thought for a while now that he will, in fact, win - however not by the landslide people have been predicting lately.

Considering the disastrous Republican administration of the past 8 years, I'm really shocked Obama is only so little ahead in the popular vote. Then again, thinking about it, I suppose I shouldn't be - most people who vote democrat do so because they (and their family) have always voted democrat, and ditto for republicans. Having 'your team' win is far more important than any actual issues for Joe (Retard) Six-Pack.

He can thank his (probable) victory to successfully energizing the apathetic youth, and pulling undecideds to his side with his moderate stances, in my non-expert political opinion.

Anyway, President Obama: The next President Clinton 8) , or the next President Carter :? ?

Who cares? Anything's better than Bush :D
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Unread post by Shawn » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:21 pm

The networks are starting to call it for Obama. What a historic election for Americans. :cheers: :hug:

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Unread post by Shawn » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:17 pm

The speeches: McCain's was gracious. Had he campaigned like that, he probably stood a better chance of winning. The people in the crowd that booed Obama's name illustrate the ugly genie McCain and Palin let out of the bottle. Obama was inspirational. He should savor the moment as much as possible because of the massive shit sandwich staring at him on his plate: 2 unwinnable wars, a nasty recession, busted market capitalism, climate change, energy. I guess we'll have wait and see...

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if i can just take this chance
to congratulate the US on
electing someone who although
inexperienced, seems to have
something between his ears.

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Unread post by senseiman » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:10 pm

Our long international nightmare is over.

Thank god.

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Unread post by Shawn » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:47 am

A final post script to this thread.

The results for Guilford County, where Palin made remarks about real Americans in a pro-American part of the country:

Obama/Biden 58.75%
McCain/Palin 40.44%

:rotfl:

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Oh, wait, there's more:

Not only was Palin a terrible pick, it turns out she was a chiseler, too!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Unread post by Tall Tall Tree » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:13 pm

Tokyo_Joe wrote:Anyway, President Obama: The next President Clinton 8) , or the next President Carter :? ?
I'm with you at least on this. The best possible outcome there can be at this point is that Obama pulls back on some of his historic liberalism to the point somewhere approaching sanity while still kicking a little ass militarily when need be. If that doesn't happen…

Well, it looks like a generation of voters have forgotten what a pussy-footed pinko looks like, and they're about to learn a hard lesson.

See you in 2012… if there's anything left to fight for. Good luck and God bless.

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Unread post by wilde_oscar » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:20 pm

Tall Tall Tree wrote:
Tokyo_Joe wrote:Anyway, President Obama: The next President Clinton 8) , or the next President Carter :? ?
I'm with you at least on this. The best possible outcome there can be at this point is that Obama pulls back on some of his historic liberalism to the point somewhere approaching sanity while still kicking a little ass militarily when need be. If that doesn't happen…

Well, it looks like a generation of voters have forgotten what a pussy-footed pinko looks like, and they're about to learn a hard lesson.

See you in 2012… if there's anything left to fight for. Good luck and God bless.

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Unread post by allblacks » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:50 pm

This is one of the best speeches I personally have ever heard.
Mr Obama said

Hello, Chicago.

If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible; who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time; who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.

It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen; by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the very first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different; that their voices could be that difference.

It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled -- Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America!

It's the answer that -- that led those who have been told for so long by so many to be cynical, and fearful, and doubtful about what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.

It's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this day, in this election, at this defining moment, change has come to America.

A little bit earlier this evening, I received an extraordinarily gracious call from Senator McCain. Senator McCain fought long and hard in this campaign, and he's fought even longer and harder for the country that he loves. He has endured sacrifices for America that most of us cannot begin to imagine. We are better off for the service rendered by this brave and selfless leader. I congratulate him; I congratulate Governor Palin for all that they've achieved, and I look forward to working with them to renew this nation's promise in the months ahead.

I want to thank my partner in this journey, a man who campaigned from his heart and spoke for the men and women he grew up with on the streets of Scranton and rode with on the train home to Delaware, the Vice President-elect of the United States, Joe Biden.

And I would not be standing here tonight without the unyielding support of my best friend for the last 16 years, the rock of our family, the love of my life, the nation's next First Lady: Michelle Obama. Sasha and Malia, I love you both more than you can imagine, and you have earned the new puppy that's coming with us to the White House. And while she's no longer with us, I know my grandmother's watching, along with the family that made me who I am. I miss them tonight, and I know that my debt to them is beyond measure. To my sister Maya, my sister Alma, all my other brothers and sisters -- thank you so much for the support that you've given me. I am grateful to them.

And to my campaign manager, David Plouffe -- the unsung hero of this campaign, who built the best -- the best political campaign, I think, in the history of the United States of America. To my chief strategist David Axelrod -- who's been a partner with me every step of the way. To the best campaign team ever assembled in the history of politics -- you made this happen, and I am forever grateful for what you've sacrificed to get it done.

But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to. It belongs to you. It belongs to you. I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn't start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington. It began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston. It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give 5 dollars and 10 dollars and 20 dollars to the cause. It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation's apathy, who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep. It drew strength from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on doors of perfect strangers, and from the millions of Americans who volunteered and organized and proved that more than two centuries later a government of the people, by the people, and for the people has not perished from the Earth. This is your victory.

And I know you didn't do this just to win an election. And I know you didn't do it for me. You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of our lifetime: two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century. Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us. There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after the children fall asleep and wonder how they'll make the mortgage or pay their doctors' bills or save enough for their child's college education. There's new energy to harness, new jobs to be created, new schools to build, and threats to meet, alliances to repair.

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even in one term. But, America, I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there. I promise you, we as a people will get there.

There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won't agree with every decision or policy I make as President. And we know the government can't solve every problem. But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And, above all, I will ask you to join in the work of remaking this nation, the only way it's been done in America for 221 years -- block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand. What began 21 months ago in the depths of winter cannot end on this autumn night.

This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were. It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice. So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other. Let us remember that, if this financial crisis taught us anything, it's that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers. In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people. Let's resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long.

Let's remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House, a Party founded on the values of self-reliance and individual liberty and national unity. Those are values that we all share. And while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress. As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours: "We are not enemies but friends...." "Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection."¹

And to those Americans who -- whose support I have yet to earn, I may not have won your vote tonight, but I hear your voices. I need your help. And I will be your President, too.

And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces, to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of the world, our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand.

To those -- To those who would tear the world down: We will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright: Tonight we've proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope.

That's the true genius of America: that America can change. Our union can be perfected. What we've already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that's on my mind tonight's about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. She's a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing: Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldn't vote for two reasons: because she was a woman and because of the color of her skin.

And tonight, I think about all that she's seen throughout her century in America -- the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can't, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.

At a time when women's voices were silenced and their hopes dismissed, she lived to see them stand up and speak out and reach for the ballot: Yes we can.

When there was despair in the dust bowl and depression across the land, she saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs, a new sense of common purpose: Yes we can.

When the bombs fell on our harbor and tyranny threatened the world, she was there to witness a generation rise to greatness and a democracy was saved: Yes we can.

She was there for the buses in Montgomery, the hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, and a preacher from Atlanta who told a people that "we shall overcome": Yes we can.

A man touched down on the moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world was connected by our own science and imagination.

And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen, and cast her vote, because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change: Yes we can.

America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves -- if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?

This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time, to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth, that, out of many, we are one;² that while we breathe, we hope. And where we are met with cynicism and doubt and those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people: Yes, we can.

Thank you.

God bless you.

And may God bless the United States of America.

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Unread post by Tall Tall Tree » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:20 pm

Yes, Obama is very good with rhetoric. If only his upcoming presidency were as rhetorical…

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Unread post by Stick-Swinging Incident » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:58 pm

His acceptance speech was good, no doubt, but to be honest, though longer, his "A Perfect Union" speech was more riviting. It is 37 minutes long or there abouts. But he pulls it off.

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Unread post by exUsagiCoalMiner » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:24 pm

I'm too lazy to pull the link up, but anybody else see the news article today where Palin puts the sole blame of the GOP's loss down to the Bush Administration? :eyes:
Well, I guess she was at least partially right...
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Unread post by SamhainP8 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:07 am

In the Australian news this morning she was quoted as saying that the reason they lost was for not being able to secure the Hispanic vote.
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Unread post by Shawn » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:40 am

Tall Tall Tree wrote:Yes, Obama is very good with rhetoric. If only his upcoming presidency were as rhetorical…
As much as I like Obama, I agree with TTT. I don't think that Obama is going to get much of a honeymoon due to the enormity of the financial crisis in the US. GM is essentially insolvent and may go bankrupt. :omfg: No matter how good Obama's advisers and their plans are, I'm beginning to doubt whether a stimulus package will do any good. The financial crisis is a cancer and requires that the tumors (hedge funds et al) be cut out. It's going to be very painful for the economy and the public.

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Unread post by Tall Tall Tree » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:55 pm

I was not happy about the first bailout. If it ends up setting a precedent and the one for American car makers ends up going through as well, I'm going to be livid.

The funny thing is that I hear both liberals and conservatives who are not happy about this shit; opposition to the bailouts are universal. Yet it looks like Congress is going to be an open cash register for a little while longer yet. No wonder they have a 7% approval rating (I think Bush's approval rating at its lowest levels has been around 35%).
exUsagiCoalMiner wrote:(Oh, and did she get around to returning that $150,000 in clothing the GOP bought for her?)
That money bought clothes for her and her whole family, actually. Is Obama going to return the $140,000 spent to build those stupid plastic Greek columns for his convention speech?

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Unread post by Wage Slave » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:06 pm

Tall Tall Tree wrote:I was not happy about the first bailout. If it ends up setting a precedent and the one for American car makers ends up going through as well, I'm going to be livid.

The funny thing is that I hear both liberals and conservatives who are not happy about this shit; opposition to the bailouts are universal. Yet it looks like Congress is going to be an open cash register for a little while longer yet.
I can't understand why they didn't demand and get shares in the businesses that can be sold off later when the price recovers as was done in the UK. I'm glad I'm not a US taxpayer!
That money bought clothes for her and her whole family, actually.
Oh so that's all right then. :huh:
Is Obama going to return the $140,000 spent to build those stupid plastic Greek columns for his convention speech?
Comparing apples and pears again. He didn't buy them, they are not for his personal (or family's use) and he hasn't kept them. It is up to the Democratic party to decide how they decorate their stage and what happens with the props afterwards.
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Unread post by Tall Tall Tree » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:10 pm

And by the same respects, it's up to the Republican party to decide how much money they're going to allocate to their candidates for a new wardrobe. If anyone has a right to be angry, it's donors to the party. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and assume you are not one of those.

At least the clothes will last more than one night.

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