Harassers exploit Gaba’s ‘man-to-man’ lesson format

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Harassers exploit Gaba’s ‘man-to-man’ lesson format

Unread post by MonkeyMagic » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:52 pm

The first sign that Olivia’s Gaba lesson would be anything but ordinary came when her student insisted during the warmup that he didn’t like wearing clothes.
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Re: Harassers exploit Gaba’s ‘man-to-man’ lesson format

Unread post by bmore » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:51 pm

I honestly have no idea why anyone would work at GABA. I mean, big eikaiwa, whether it's Nova or Aeon, is bad, but GABA has to be the worst. 1,500 yen per class? To earn 240000 a month you have to teach roughly 40 classes a week? No transportation costs? And on top of that you have to deal with sexual harassment? I hate to blame the victims in this case, but Jesus, work somewhere else. What an awful company.

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Re: Harassers exploit Gaba’s ‘man-to-man’ lesson format

Unread post by MonkeyMagic » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:17 pm

Everything that you mentioned bmore certainly doesn't endear me to the 'company'.
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Unread post by senseiman » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:44 pm

That sounds pretty awful, everyone working for Gaba has my sympathy. Its a disgrace that the company would let this sort of thing go on like that.

I am sure that everyone working at GABA knows how awful it is and wishes they could work elsewhere, but my impression is that the Eikaiwa market isn`t exactly booming these days so its not suprising that people get stuck with that kind of job.
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Unread post by bmore » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:05 am

The eikaiwa market may not be "booming", but there are plenty of opportunities out there, all of them, I suspect, better than Gaba.

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Don't know if this a good place or a bad place, but the salary alone is much better than GABA.
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Only a part time position, but the hourly wage is twice what GABA pays.

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Just have a look at this link. I think just about every job pays more than GABA, and I suspect most of these places will have the decency to shell out transportation costs. I'm sorry, but I stand by my original comment: I can't understand why anyone would work for GABA.

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Re: Harassers exploit Gaba’s ‘man-to-man’ lesson format

Unread post by In The Know » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:00 am

bmore wrote: 月給 40万円
You'd need to pay me 40-man/month to babysit the brats (most who don't want to be in "English class" in their free time) while mom shops or plays pachinko. Yes, I'm that jaded.
Only a part time position, but the hourly wage is twice what GABA pays.

https://jobs.gaijinpot.com/job/index/la ... C%E7%B4%A2

I'm sorry, but I stand by my original comment: I can't understand why anyone would work for GABA.
I don't think that anyone *wants* to but if you need to pay rent and eat and this is the best who will hire you... you take it. Agreed, GABA is a sweatshop with zero upside.

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Unread post by angryboy » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:32 am

senseiman wrote: I am sure that everyone working at GABA knows how awful it is and wishes they could work elsewhere, but my impression is that the Eikaiwa market isn`t exactly booming these days so its not suprising that people get stuck with that kind of job.
I can`t see it that way.I think they are idiots for staying there.Ok, so they want to stay in Japan and I get that but
what is worse , packing it in and going home for a while (no one says you can`t come back via other avenues) or
staying in such a demeaning stressful environment?
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Re: Harassers exploit Gaba’s ‘man-to-man’ lesson format

Unread post by inflames » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:38 pm

This is an article in the JT, which hardly qualifies as professional journalism.

I don't doubt that there are some instances of sexual harassment (as there are in any company - just ask any woman and she'll tell you stories), but this article makes it sound as though Gaba is blatantly ignoring the problem.

FWIW people who have been at Gaba a while can get a ton of money.

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Unread post by MonkeyMagic » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:41 am

inflames wrote:This is an article in the JT, which hardly qualifies as professional journalism.
It wasn't written by a journalist per se, but by this man:
James McCrostie is a full-time university lecturer and part-time writer. He writes mainly about labor issues related to the English-teaching industry.
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Unread post by bmore » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:15 pm

I will say one good thing I have heard about GABA is that they hire Aussies and other working holiday folks, some of whom haven't graduated from uni. Do other eikaiwa schools do that?

I suppose if you are a good teacher and have been there for a while, you can make some decent money, but that place just seems tough, even by eikaiwa standards. The teachers are shokutaku, so they have no job security, they get no transportation costs, they have to dress extremely conservatively (only black suits, from what I've heard), and one or two negative reviews can lead to a salary cut or even a non-renewal of their contracts. Good teachers should just steal as many students as they can and charge 4,000 or 5,000 yen an hour to do private lessons, which is a huge pay bump for them and a discount for the students, who I guarantee are paying more per hour to GABA. When I left eikaiwa three years ago, I poached a handful of students and I still do private lessons on the side. It's not bad money for me, it's cheaper for the students, and, because we're doing it in a rather informal manner, they don't have to worry about cancellation fees, signup fees, or the furikae system, all of which are some of the worst aspects of big eikaiwa. I'm not a communist, but the idea of GABA charging 8,000 yen per hour (I don't know how much it is, but I suspect it's in this neighborhood-feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) and the teacher only getting 1,500 yen or even 2,500 yen sounds like naked exploitation to me.

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Unread post by inflames » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:27 am

When I was at Gaba, we had a few (3 or so, IIRC) who would always be filled with students - one of them hadn't, for some reason I still don't understand, belted up (one of the others was D1 or whatever the highest was and the third was in the middle). I know the one with the highest belt is still there and makes a ton (40 lessons a week at whatever the rate is now). They used to have lesson incentives as well - you got a bonus for the number of lessons you taught (so if you taught something like more than 160 lessons in a month, you'd get an extra 50k or so).

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Unread post by In The Know » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:02 pm

Lamarr wrote:... to reach those top salaries, you'd have to slug it out and stick at it for a while.
Having taught there for a year (it was OK at best), to rise through the ranks that pay you more per lesson you have to sit through days of GABA training classes and then take a written test. All this training is at zero pay. You do it on your own time, completely unpaid. These days of training are staggered throughout several sessions. GABA's business model: Mandatory training to advance through the ranks but we don't give you a single yen to do it. WTF?!

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Unread post by bmore » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:07 am

I'm just curious-and maybe we should start a separate thread for this?-
for those of you who worked at big eikaiwa, where did you do time?
I did a year and a half at Aeon, before moving onto small-scale eikaiwa,
and now my current job (not eikaiwa, thank God).

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Re: Harassers exploit Gaba’s ‘man-to-man’ lesson format

Unread post by inflames » Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:39 am

In The Know wrote:
Lamarr wrote:... to reach those top salaries, you'd have to slug it out and stick at it for a while.
Having taught there for a year (it was OK at best), to rise through the ranks that pay you more per lesson you have to sit through days of GABA training classes and then take a written test. All this training is at zero pay. You do it on your own time, completely unpaid. These days of training are staggered throughout several sessions. GABA's business model: Mandatory training to advance through the ranks but we don't give you a single yen to do it. WTF?!
To be fair, Gaba's extra training wasn't corporate brainwashing BS (the initial and mandatory follow-up were though).

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