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The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by S-B » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:10 am

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English teacher used "hangman"-like game at school where student hung himself

YACHIYO, Chiba -- A foreign English teacher in charge of an English class at Shumei Yachiyo Junior High School is facing criticism after it emerged that the teacher drew pictures of a person being hung (ala the game "Hangman") when students answered incorrectly in class. In 2008, a student at the school hung himself, but the teacher allegedly continued using the game regardless.

The parents of the student who killed himself, meanwhile, are angry. "This kind of teaching is a problem," they have said.

The testimony of several current and former students led to the discovery. According to the students, since at least 2007, the teacher has used the drawings on the blackboard, adding a line and circle to the picture every time a student can't answer a question or answers a question incorrectly, gradually forming a complete picture that resembles a person who has been hung.

According to the parents of the third-year junior high student who hung himself on school grounds in November 2008, in his school notes there were also pictures that looked like hanging victims. At the wake for their son, the parents showed the picture they had found to their son's friend, who told them that it resembled pictures drawn by the English teacher in class, the parents say.

One graduate of the school said, "I considered it a part of a game, a harmless black joke. But, now, thinking about the fact that someone killed themselves, I don't think it was a good idea."

Another student said, "It was also going on in 2009 (after the suicide)."

The reason behind the suicide is unknown, and no causal link has been made between the student's suicide and the teacher's drawings or any instruction on the part of the school.

The parents say that despite the fact that in a study record he submitted to the school, their son wrote, "I had great conversations with people on a suicide website," they received no contact on the matter from the school. They have filed a suit with the Chiba District Court, seeking around 84 million yen in damages on the basis that the school did not respond appropriately despite the suicide warning sign.

On the pictures resembling hangman, the parents said, "Even if it was a joke, the fact that it's being done in a classroom is itself a problem. We were shocked to hear that it continued even after our son's suicide."

The school, communicating via a lawyer, said they wanted to refrain from making any comments on the matter because of the suit.

According to Professor Kazumi Fujimori of Musashino University, a clinical psychologist and author of the book "Gakko Trauma to Kodomo no Kokoro no Care" (School trauma and care for the minds of children), the use of the pictures could almost be considered a form of "power harassment," when a person abuses their position of authority to harass others in the workplace.

"In these times, when there is a trend for even the media to show self-restraint in mentioning suicide, if that kind of instruction was really going on in the classroom, it shows great carelessness. Even if the teacher meant no harm, for the students, who must accept whatever form of teaching is given to them, it is similar to power harassment," says Fujimori.
It's a game I've only ever used when I started out teaching, but not used much anymore. Still, not sure of the implications of this.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by Shawn » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:12 pm

Playing hangman after a suicide was a really bad idea, but wtf is up with the monster parents digging this up the drawings and suing? Holy crap! Professor Fujimori, power harassment? Really? :roll: Anything to justify the lawsuit I suppose...

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by jon » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:10 pm

I agree. The parents are just after money.

When I played hangman at school, like decades ago, the hung man was not a suicide: he was executed on a scaffold. There was actually quite a lot of gruesome stuff in education at that time: Guy Fawkes, Hansel and Gretel, Ring a ring a roses. No comment on what place that stuff has in modern education, but I would say for me it was more entertaining and less damaging than some of the other shit I experienced in school.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by inflames » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:23 pm

Shawn wrote:Playing hangman after a suicide was a really bad idea, but wtf is up with the monster parents digging this up the drawings and suing? Holy crap! Professor Fujimori, power harassment? Really? :roll: Anything to justify the lawsuit I suppose...
They're suing because the kid turned in something saying he went to suicide websites and was talking to people on those websites. I think that this is something the teacher should have noticed and told others about.

I've always been told to never play hangman in Japan. At Nova and as an ALT, every place has consistently said to never play hangman.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by InTheColdLightOfDay » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:01 pm

I kept quiet about it when it came up in the thread where that guy wanted to sue his school for not renewing his contract, but I've got to ask.
Exactly what the fuck is "power harassment"?
For some reason that phrase just annoys the shit out of me.
"power harassment," when a person abuses their position of authority to harass others in the workplace.
Isn't harassment, by it's very definition, someone abusing (a real or percieved) position of power or authority?
Why the need for the phrase "power harassment"?

In this case, I don't think it's a reflection on the game of Hangman itself, it's more a reflection that the specific teacher in question was a moron.
I don't see a problem with playing/using Hangman in the classroom in general, but at a school where a student used that particular method to kill himself on school grounds... yeah, probably better not.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by jon » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:27 pm

It's quite possible that the teacher in question, if a part timer, ALT or whatever didn't even know about the suicide.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by InTheColdLightOfDay » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:46 pm

jon wrote:It's quite possible that the teacher in question, if a part timer, ALT or whatever didn't even know about the suicide.
I thought about that, but...
In 2008, a student at the school hung himself, but the teacher allegedly continued using the game regardless.
So he was around when it happened. Unless you're suggesting that he could have been employed at the school right through the event and had no knowledge of it?
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by katamari » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:16 pm

thats entirely possible, coldlight. a teacher at my school got pished, drove home and knocked down an old woman. did anyone think to share this with me? nope. i heard about it only when my mate overheard (hes good at japanese) teachers gossiping about it at his school.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by Mogura » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:59 pm

If only some kid had killed himself while doing the hokey pokey, it might save English teachers from having to perform the much-disdained, humiliating dance ritual every year...
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by InTheColdLightOfDay » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:36 am

katamari wrote:thats entirely possible, coldlight. a teacher at my school got pished, drove home and knocked down an old woman. did anyone think to share this with me? nope. i heard about it only when my mate overheard (hes good at japanese) teachers gossiping about it at his school.
Fair enough. I did kind of wonder about that, having never worked in a JHS or HS here myself.
jon, wasn't intending to be confrontational, so hope you don't take it that way.
Had a few beers, so I'll say no more on the subject tonight.
Other than it's the Hokey Cokey, dammit.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by jon » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:13 am

No worries coldlight, and indeed if you were being confrontational I could hardly complain (!) In this case, if the school had neglected to do anything about the handed in work which indicated an interest in suicide, they might well have neglected to tell their AlT about what had happened also.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by katamari » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:14 pm

don't call it hangman, and don't use a scaffold. just use the stick man. problem solved.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by InTheColdLightOfDay » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:57 pm

katamari wrote:don't call it hangman, and don't use a scaffold. just use the stick man. problem solved.
Oh really? I think you'll find that using a stick man is a textbook case of sexual power harassment.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by katamari » Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:57 am

i feel drawing stick tits would be the bigger crime.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by SamhainP8 » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:13 am

katamari wrote:i feel drawing stick tits would be the bigger crime.
But if you drew some stick bolt nipples it would be incredibly lifelike.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by RandyDickson » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:53 pm

But is the classroom overly :bye: cold?
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Unread post by steki47 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:34 pm

Mogura wrote:If only some kid had killed himself while doing the hokey pokey, it might save English teachers from having to perform the much-disdained, humiliating dance ritual every year...
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by DarkStatistic » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:56 pm

Meh. I just draw a spider instead of a person -- body and 8 legs. Problem solved.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by InTheColdLightOfDay » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:16 pm

Hangspider?
That's cruelty to animals.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by AsahiSupaSpy » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:39 pm

Don't play hangman.
Think of something more creative...

How about....
Have an amount of students equal to the amount of letters in the word or phrase stand with their backs to the blackboard. Write the word or phrase on the board behind the students (so each student is standing in front of one letter)
The remaining students (standing)take turns to guess a letter. If the guess is correct, the student(s) in front of that letter sit down. If incorrect, the guesser sits down.
If the guessing team has members standing when the complete phrase or word is uncovered, they win. If they run out of guesses...they lose.

I just thought of that now. Might try it.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by SamhainP8 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:07 pm

AsahiSupaSpy wrote:Don't play hangman.
Think of something more creative...

How about....
Have an amount of students equal to the amount of letters in the word or phrase stand with their backs to the blackboard. Write the word or phrase on the board behind the students (so each student is standing in front of one letter)
The remaining students (standing)take turns to guess a letter. If the guess is correct, the student(s) in front of that letter sit down. If incorrect, the guesser sits down.
If the guessing team has members standing when the complete phrase or word is uncovered, they win. If they run out of guesses...they lose.

I just thought of that now. Might try it.
Sounds like a great way to get yourself :rope:
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by AsahiSupaSpy » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:24 pm

SamhainP8 wrote:
AsahiSupaSpy wrote:Don't play hangman.
Think of something more creative...

How about....
Have an amount of students equal to the amount of letters in the word or phrase stand with their backs to the blackboard. Write the word or phrase on the board behind the students (so each student is standing in front of one letter)
The remaining students (standing)take turns to guess a letter. If the guess is correct, the student(s) in front of that letter sit down. If incorrect, the guesser sits down.
If the guessing team has members standing when the complete phrase or word is uncovered, they win. If they run out of guesses...they lose.

I just thought of that now. Might try it.
Sounds like a great way to get yourself :rope:
I am looking forward to your awesome ideas dude.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by SamhainP8 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:52 am

AsahiSupaSpy wrote:
SamhainP8 wrote:
AsahiSupaSpy wrote:Don't play hangman.
Think of something more creative...

How about....
Have an amount of students equal to the amount of letters in the word or phrase stand with their backs to the blackboard. Write the word or phrase on the board behind the students (so each student is standing in front of one letter)
The remaining students (standing)take turns to guess a letter. If the guess is correct, the student(s) in front of that letter sit down. If incorrect, the guesser sits down.
If the guessing team has members standing when the complete phrase or word is uncovered, they win. If they run out of guesses...they lose.

I just thought of that now. Might try it.
Sounds like a great way to get yourself :rope:
I am looking forward to your awesome ideas dude.
:rotfl: Better take a deep breath!
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by sampler » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:33 am

Snotty kids should be banned from doing the "...and eyes, and ears and mouth and nose" song and then hi-fiving the teacher.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by steki47 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:09 pm

sampler wrote:Snotty kids should be banned .
There, that's better.

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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by JojoBizarro » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:39 am

As an alternative, I prefer drawing a beach house with a set number of support posts. When a player calls a letter not in the word, a wave takes out one support post. Game ends when the beach house flows out to sea.
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Re: The end of hangman in schools?

Unread post by allblacks » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:06 pm

Why post on a six year old thread? Just wondering.

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