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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by sparty » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:47 am

It started with all new contracts from last October. Instructors were offered a choice of 2 different contracts. One was with a low base salary plus the aforementioned incentives based on student numbers in your lesson or one which was just based on the incentives. New instructors are only offered the one without the base salary. If you are not in a busy branch you are in trouble big time.

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by MrX » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:25 pm

sparty wrote:It started with all new contracts from last October. Instructors were offered a choice of 2 different contracts. One was with a low base salary plus the aforementioned incentives based on student numbers in your lesson or one which was just based on the incentives. New instructors are only offered the one without the base salary. If you are not in a busy branch you are in trouble big time.
How does that work? As I recall, the total salary was made up of the base, plus a regularity allowance for not being absent or late, a skill allowance and allowances for agreeing to transfer or work on different days and shifts. So the base has been replaced by an amount determined by how many students are in classes?
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by inflames » Tue May 01, 2012 1:22 am

From what I've gathered you're guaranteed some pitiful base rate then everything after that is extra.

One other thing I've gathered is that new people rather quickly realize they can make more money about anywhere else and fuck off.

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by Japandy » Tue May 01, 2012 7:02 am

MrX wrote:
Japandy wrote:My long-suffering former colleague told me wages have been reduced again. Apparently teachers are on a low base salary with incentives based on how many students they can attract. Sounds like the are looking for ways to cut salaries even further.
Is this very recent, i.e. in the past few days or weeks? A few months ago there was a bit of talk here on the same topic.
Not really sure but he has lost 200K a month compared to what he used to get. No-one is allowed to use supplementary materials and morale is below rock bottom. He said old AAMs now spend a lot of time teaching, including kids. Feel sorry for those who are stuck there.

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Re: Neo-Nova

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Japandy wrote:
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Japandy wrote:My long-suffering former colleague told me wages have been reduced again. Apparently teachers are on a low base salary with incentives based on how many students they can attract. Sounds like the are looking for ways to cut salaries even further.
Is this very recent, i.e. in the past few days or weeks? A few months ago there was a bit of talk here on the same topic.
Not really sure but he has lost 200K a month compared to what he used to get. No-one is allowed to use supplementary materials and morale is below rock bottom. He said old AAMs now spend a lot of time teaching, including kids. Feel sorry for those who are stuck there.
I heard about some pretty savage cuts as well although in one or two cases I was surprised some people could ever have been earning as much as they were, considering how NOVA started cutting back on salary increments around 2003. The main supplementary materials were junked well before the bankruptcy, but I suppose JMA will be specifically telling everyone they can only use the Diplomat books?
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:27 am

It's almost two years since Saruhashi was sentenced to (only) two years in prison.

It would be nice to see a "Where is he now?" article on him in the media. Just to let him know that we haven't forgotten him.
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by wallygreen93 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:45 pm

I'd like to share my views so far. I've been here for a few months and have had a pretty positive experience. Many people complain about the new contracts, but as a recent graduate looking to get into the eikaiwa field, NOVA has been nothing but helpful. I don't know if I'll work for them forever but the staff is always helpful, the training was informative, and my only complaint would be the difficulty coming from the NOVA kids classes.

Are the lessons monotonous? Sure, if you follow the manual step-by-step. But NOVA, now, wants you to tailor your lessons to the students. Give them new vocabulary, spend 5 minutes thinking up alternative lessons. These lessons don't have to be repetitive if you change them every time.

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by Musashi » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:21 am

You are still in the honeymoon period...give it time. :luck:

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by JD9 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:21 am

wallygreen93 wrote:But NOVA, now, wants you to tailor your lessons to the students. Give them new vocabulary, spend 5 minutes thinking up alternative lessons.
Spend 5 minutes per lesson thinking up alternative lessons when exactly?
During your unpaid 5 minutes 'break' between lessons I bet! :rotfl:
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by allblacks » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:55 am

Nova wasnt bad for me either. For the first WEEK!

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Unread post by In The Know » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:09 pm

wallygreen93 wrote: I don't know if I'll work for them forever...
:ack: Believe me, whether it is your decision or theirs, you won't.

The NOVA new drone indoctrination manual probably still says dating students is forbidden. Ignore that part. :cheers:
Aside from all the negativity you might have sensed since presenting your initial thoughts, good luck, enjoy the gig for what it is, and Nihon e youkoso. :chug:

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by katamari » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:13 pm

my first few hours at nova was great. then i had VOICE.
How do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by AsahiSupaSpy » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:09 am

katamari wrote:my first few hours at nova was great. then i had VOICE.
Oh God, I still wake up screaming, bathed in a cold sweat from Voice. One of my three personal versions of Hell is a non-stop Voice lesson.
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by In The Know » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:55 am

All the new guy wants to do is come on LJ to say his experience at the new NOVA isn't "that bad" (quite a compliment) and all the old vets then come out swinging with their worst NOVA memories. To that I say, keep 'em comin'! :guns: :D

My worst memories were the grilling and inquisition you had to suffer through if you called in sick. One dumb fuck even went so far as to offer unsolicited medical advice when I called in sick (and I was sick). Once I saw what he was doing I put an end to it with "Look, I'm sick. I'm not going in today. You can take it from there, Chief." And I hung up.

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by RalphWiggum » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:57 am

AsahiSupaSpy wrote:
katamari wrote:my first few hours at nova was great. then i had VOICE.
Oh God, I still wake up screaming, bathed in a cold sweat from Voice. One of my three personal versions of Hell is a non-stop Voice lesson.
Voice was generally hideous, I'm with you there. The rest of it I enjoyed for the most part though, and I hope this chap does too. Mind you, the conditions these days sound shite!
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by JD9 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:28 am

I really enjoyed voice. Sit on a couch and tell or listen to bullshit stories = easy money.
I trained at the biggest branch in Nagoya and my first voice had over 15 plebes in it.
I liked kids lessons better though.
Textbook lessons came a distant 3rd, as most of those folks were as boring as the books.

All in all my tour of duty was one of the best 2 years ever, I really enjoyed the job and would have happily stayed had the ship not sunk. If I hadn't had that positive experience there's no way I would have come back here 3 years later.

Now though, I work half the hours for double the money I was doing and getting at Nova. :mrgreen:
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by RalphWiggum » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:31 am

JD9 wrote:I really enjoyed voice. Sit on a couch and tell or listen to bullshit stories = easy money.
I trained at the biggest branch in Nagoya and my first voice had over 15 plebes in it.
I liked kids lessons better though.
Textbook lessons came a distant 3rd, as most of those folks were as boring as the books.

All in all my tour of duty was won of the best 2 years ever, I really enjoyed the job and would have happily stayed had the ship not sunk. If I hadn't had that positive experience there's no way I would have come back here 3 years later.

Now though, I work half the hours for double the money I was doing and getting at Nova. :mrgreen:
Thought pretty much the same about my 4 year tour, though I went as soon as I noticed the boat starting to take on water and hated (HATED) teaching kids. I was in a central Tokyo school though, between a couple of big universities so got mainly uni kids and professionals rather than bored housewives.
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by JD9 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:08 am

Lamarr wrote:Take what money you can, see some of Japan and Asia, and piss the rest up the wall. Oh yes, and shag as many hot, young Japanese fillies as you can. Go home with an empty bank balance and lots of fond memories.
I did all that but went home with ¥2,000,000.
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by inflames » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:15 pm

I've met a few new Nova teachers at gaijin bars - they all say the salary they were promised is nothing near their actual salary.

Wait until you get an observation and part of the feedback is that you didn't follow the LMP. How many people had that happen?

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by JD9 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:48 pm

Lamarr wrote:
JD9 wrote:
Lamarr wrote:Take what money you can, see some of Japan and Asia, and piss the rest up the wall. Oh yes, and shag as many hot, young Japanese fillies as you can. Go home with an empty bank balance and lots of fond memories.
I did all that but went home with ¥2,000,000.
Well, yeah, back in the day, with a starting salary in the region of Y290k a month, plentiful overtime, Y10k salary raises, and privates on the side, you could do that.

I think those days are well and truly gone, forever, never to return.
Those days were long gone before I started in 2007 and I was on the part time contract for about 14 months :thumbsup:
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by JD9 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:36 am

Lamarr wrote:
JD9 wrote:
Lamarr wrote:Well, yeah, back in the day, with a starting salary in the region of Y290k a month, plentiful overtime, Y10k salary raises, and privates on the side, you could do that.

I think those days are well and truly gone, forever, never to return.
Those days were long gone before I started in 2007 and I was on the part time contract for about 14 months :thumbsup:
So you started in 2007, lived through the Nova crash on a part-time contract for 14 months and saved Y2,000,000.

I think you should explain how you did this for our "new recruit" above. Although, on second thoughts, you should maybe patent your method and sell it in a series of courses. You could make another Y2m in no time!
No, I quit just after our pays didn't come through (went full time for my last contract with a massive ¥1,500 pay increase).

For income: as you said, overtime and privates.
For saving: move out of Nova accommodation ASAP. Socialise widely and have and go to a lot of home and park drinking parties etc.

A massive night out with friends on combining drinks costs about ¥2,000.
A massive night out in a club costs about ¥20,000.

It aint rocket science dude! :thumbsup:
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by JD9 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:15 am

Don't know about paradise but I definitely had a lot of fun.
Closer to paradise now with a wife, two kids and if current trends continue I'll be banking close to that much every six months instead of after 2 years.
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Unread post by steki47 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:18 pm

Lamarr wrote:I've heard it referred to as an "industry". I really laugh when people refer to it as a "career". Is sitting there talking nonsense to half brain-dead Japanese for umpteen hours a week, month after month, year after year, for crap pay and crap/non-existent pay raises, really a "career"?
Language education/applied linguistics can be a career and there is a solid body of academic research in such fields. But eikaiwa is the retarded step-brother of those fields. Having said that, I had a blast during my four years at Nova. Saved money, travelled a lot, got a black belt, got laid like crazy-that was a great period in my life.

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by Winermute » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:14 am

Looking back now I really enjoyed my 4 years at the MMC (2003 - bitter end). Nova as a company was &%#$ but there was always time off to be had through shift swaps and holidays weren't an issue to get. The pay was reasonable considering the amount of actual work I did and going to work each day to talk to mates was great. I had just come out of uni as well with no money and very little work experience and having never been overseas. I'm back home in my own country now with a "real" job but I still remember fondly those first four years of my work life in Japan being the most fun and interesting. I think if Nova can still provide that kind of experience I say it's a good thing. My suggestion to Wally would be the same as what has been said already - get your own apartment/health insurance and move on quickly, no more than a year. While the ESL market isn't what it was ten years ago, there are still better paying jobs out there if you are willing to work for it. I remember making north of 500000yen in a month just by pounding myself with work.

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Thursday, Nov. 22, 2012

Ex-Nova language school founder Sahashi's two-year prison term finalized
Kyodo

The Supreme Court has rejected an appeal by the founder and former president of the language school chain Nova Corp. against his conviction for embezzling ¥320 million from employee benefit funds, effectively finalizing his two-year prison term.

Nozomu Sahashi, 61, was convicted of transferring the sum accumulated at an entity in charge of the funds to a bank account of a Nova subsidiary in July 2007 in order to reimburse students who had signed contracts that they subsequently canceled.

The ruling by the top court's Third Petty Bench was made Monday.

In August 2009, the Osaka District Court sentenced Sahashi to 3½ years in prison for embezzlement, rejecting his claim that he had no intention to gain unlawful profits.

The Osaka High Court reduced the prison term in December 2010 to two years, recognizing that the embezzlement was aimed at keeping the company operating amid a management crisis and that Sahashi had not gained personally.

Sahashi launched the English conversation classes in 1981 and set up Nova in 1990. His venture grew into what was once Japan's largest chain of English language schools, with around 480,000 people taking language lessons at its peak.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20121122b1.html
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by Kawasako » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:27 pm

Good to see Saruhashi go to jail.

Just a quick word to those talking money, I have stayed here and take in about 1.5million a month, the market is wide open!

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by MrX » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:54 pm

Langslave wrote::cheers: Shame its only 2 years but.
Well, I think the sentence is just about right given that our taxes will be used to keep him in prison. Unless he really does still have lots of money stashed away (which I think is a bit unlikely by now - he must have used up a bit of his own cash on trying to keep NOVA afloat, and then on various legal costs), I'll be quite glad to think of him barely scraping a living, unable to get a job, living in a 1K apartment and having only enough money for one pot of cup noodles a day.
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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by Oldster » Thu May 02, 2013 4:08 pm

Hello, I'm in my 40s and thinking about applying for a part-time position at Nova. Does anyone have any information, advice or perspective about the following.
What kind of people do they hire.
Interview advice
Is it a good place to work?
How much do you have to know about English to work there?

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by browser » Mon May 13, 2013 1:42 pm

What's going on at Neo Nova? Pretty quiet on this Forum. They must be doing reasonable well as none of their present employees are complaining like old Nova employees did.

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Re: Neo-Nova

Unread post by RalphWiggum » Tue May 14, 2013 2:53 am

browser wrote:What's going on at Neo Nova? Pretty quiet on this Forum. They must be doing reasonable well as none of their present employees are complaining like old Nova employees did.
They're too poor to be able to afford computers or the internet these days.
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