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Four Years After the "Nova Shock"

The Japan Times has a mini-retrospective on Nova four years after its collapse, with yours truly given a chance to flog Nova's corpse.

For added measure, there's also a piece on the horrors of working for Gaba.

According to William, his troubles began back home in the States when he was interviewed for a teaching position at Gaba by webcam.

"They told me I would be legally required to teach 160 lessons per month for visa sponsorship at a rate of ¥1,500 per lesson. But that didn't happen."

William says that rather than the 40 lessons he was promised, he averaged only around 25 — 30 on a good week, and sometimes as low as 10. "This was a source of conflict between myself and my management," he says.

Despite the fact he was teaching what amounted to a part-time schedule, he had to be in the workplace 40 hours a week or more.

"I would be sitting around in a booth — they would call it a booth, but I would call it essentially a prison cell — and you are expected to sit there until something falls off the cart," he says.

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I couldn't agree more with the remarks on general foriegn language teaching as opposed to eikaiwa. The same applies to many university level courses. Despite the fact that by this time the only students are motivated ones (except in the case that the course is required, which happens occasionally, or the individual student is just plain lazy, which happens a little more frequently) overal progress over a four year period is typically very slow with the strongest area being reading and answering written questions on tests and all the other skills: speaking, listening and writing being weak.

It's true to say that Japan does noticeably worse than many other countries in language learning outcomes. However, if you were to compare Japan to Britain or America, you would find that (abysmal as the progress is) Japan actually does a lot better than these countries.

And yet we all learn languages naturally as young children, don't we? Obviously there is indeed something profoundly wrong with our entire approach to language learning. No other discipline would accept the kind of poor outcomes that language departments in schools and universities routinely tolerate.

Therefore, when considering the cost of education as compared to qualitiy of outcomes it is not unreasonable to say that if you want to learn a language you had better avoid classes and make use of the wealth of resources online and in published materials.

Sorry Eikaiwa Clowns, but whatever you try to dress yourself up as, you will always be Eikaiwa Clowns, used as nothing more than a performing monkey, to do language practice with, to provide amusement, or to flirt with, and more times than not, you do more linguistic damage than good.

Ah, that old "performing monkey" metaphor again. Isn't it getting a bit tired?

This attitude is typical of the "qualified", "intelligent" people that end up stuck at eikaiwa, being lorded over by some "thick", "talentless" manager with no degree, no teaching experience etc. etc.

They infest message boards like this and continually stick the boot in to English teachers and schools in order to make themselves feel better about the fact that they were so useless that they ended up slaving away in the trenches, taking orders off some dunderheaded trainer, at a degenerate company like Nova, something which their arrogance, conceit and vanity thought that they'd never stoop so low to.

It's a waste of time telling them they're a "stuck record", that'll only encourage them. Best to ignore them until their batteries run out.

I wonder how well an awkward, giggling Japanese kid would go, being taught by your average Joe Blow Eikaiwa Clown, if they had zero English Education in High School, relative to how well they would go, with a properly qualified language teacher.

You wonder? Doesn't sound like you know.

The instructor adds that he has seen the level of professionalism and the quality of teaching improve in the last few years, with the bankruptcy having weeded out a lot of backpackers and short-termers whose teaching skills were of questionable quality.

This, incidentally, is rubbish. I don't know what planet this person is living on.

The NGWU attempted to assist instructors in this predicament with a highly publicized "Lesson for Food" program, where private students would compensate an instructor for an impromptu language lesson with a meal instead of the normal tuition fee.
While the union's intentions behind the initiative were noble, Carlet admits in hindsight that it had the "unintended consequence of lowering the private lesson market rate."

While you've got to give the Union some credit for helping teachers who were left high and dry in a foreign land with no job and income, the "Lessons for Food" thing was an absolute joke. I take it the intention was to highlight and gain sympathy for the "desperate plight" of ex-Nova teachers. Instead it had the opposite effect of making instructors look like homeless, scavenging beggars, "problem foreigners" who should be repatriated ASAP.

What with that, and having press conferences with a girl dressed up in a bunny outfit, and an unshaven, scruffy-looking guy acting as a spokesperson (was that Bob Tench?), the Union seriously shot itself in the foot and made themselves and instructors look like undignified asses, rather than people in need of assistance.

Tired? Not half as tired as your love/hate relationship with your employer, Mr X. Why don't you just quit?

No, you are wrong there Mr Surfcliff.

It’s my attitude you refer to there, and I did not last six months in Eikaiwa.

My attitude is based partly on my own experience, and on the experience of having met and listened to numerous current and ex Eikaiwa Performance Monkeys – my opinion represents the majority opinion – you know it, Mr X knows it, all you Circus Clowns, dishing up your linguistic entrails on a daily basis, know it – but for whatever reason, you all need to live in a state of constant denial, collectively sounding like a scratched record that simply refuses to stop spinning around, despite the overwhelming realities.

Eikaiwa sucks, and it sucks big time, end of story.

That reply proved my point. You do expend a lot of energy at simply trying to provoke responses from people, rather than saying things with any meaning or substance. No doubt this response will get you off as well....

I have seen it all before time and time again. No you are wrong about me too Mr Sutcliffe - at least partially.

I did not have my Masters or my 'High Level' education before I was lured, like so many, into the clutches of Eikaiwa for (I am ashamed) to say 18 months. That came afterwards. No, I was just a typical Arts grad who with a mediocre degree who mistakenly thought when I came to Japan that I was going to have my cake and eat it too. See the world and learn something that might set me off on a different career. How wrong I was.

Do I resent that to this day? Of course. However, it goes deeper than just a distaste for seedy Japanese businessmen or would be backpacker English teachers. You see, when I was forced to conclude that I knew nothing at all about language teaching after a year of being employed as a language teacher, I decided to take a Masters in Applied linguistics by distance from a reputable university. Surely this would give me my cake and eat it too. Sadly not. I did better on my Masters in terms of grades (very respectable for once) than I had ever done during my lazy university days, and yet by the end of it, despite being more informed about a host of background information, I still did not know any more about how to teach a language.

From then, I concluded that perhaps the problem was my lack of facility in learning a language myself. This was the first bright thought I had had. So, I decided to bring myself up from an Elementary level of ability in Japanese to an Upper Intermediate one to see if that made a difference. Naturally, I signed up for classes. This was an important step. You see although I had been forced to learn a foriegn langage at school for 5 years at 5 hours a week and had come out of that experience knowing virtually nothing, I always assumed that the reason for this was my own laziness. However, this time I was motivated. Surely this would make all the difference. But no. I discovered first hand as an adult student what it is like to be on the receiving end of classes from people who don't have to first clue how to teach a language.

I assumed that this was just 'bad Japan'. But when I returned to my own country and signed up for classes at my local University (reasonably good one, I might add) I found that these guys were just as bad, and in some cases worse than the people I had been with in Japan. Of course, those who knew about my Masters were delighted to talk with me in erudite terms in the once per semester individual feedback sessions we were serviced with, but no they did not have any clue how to teach a language. More to the point, even if they did, they would not have been able to do so because the system they were working to despite all claims to academic honor was just a different version of the cheapskate moneymaking scheme that eikaiwa is.

This uiniversity received huge sums of money from students interested in languages. It owned a language school for it's overseas students - a big one. It had a linguistics department. It had individual foriegn language departments. It's English department offered in-service English language classes for people on professional courses as well. The total numbers were huge. And yet, rather than cooperating together, all these departments were working in competition with one another. Their courses were overseen by business administrators to ensure that they were all highly streamlined and used as little in the way of resources as possible - thus freeing up money for the University's real research interests (outside of the language field altogether).

What was the result? Some students got top grades, but for most this did not translate into actual language ability when it came to listening, speaking and writing. For those that did get these skills there was always something else going on outside of the university.

Well, 'always', in my experience at any rate. I wouldn't deny that there is that rare brain here and there that learns what they need to under just about any conditions - and they have my respect. However, for the majority, what I say holds. If they acquired a language at all, it was largely based on doing things outside of class that worked for them rather than the content of their courses. So that's what I did too. I stopped caring about my university grades, put away my grammar books, and started to do copious amounts of reading and listening (on and offline) of anything I could get my hands on that wasn't too difficult as well as having the odd conversation to verify my progress. Guess what? It worked.

Is the experience that I have outlined above unique and atypical in the educational world? I don't think so. On the contrary, I believe that it is typical. Most people who take language classes fail, not because they are stupid, but because the people who are teaching them don't know what they are doing and/or the system they are working in is 'fixed for failure'. The very small percentage who do succeed do so, because a) they have unique minds b) They end up chancing on something outside of class that works for them c) There are incidental features of the class that benefit the student without the teacher knowing why d) They are lucky enough to wind up in one of the very few classes that exist out there, where the teacher does in fact know what they are doing.

That's what I beleive about language education today worldwide. It is a vast money spinning con with a vested interest in the majority of teachers and students never discovering how to really go about learning a langage because if they found that out then it wouldn't be nearly as lucrative. And as you all know, or should if you have watched some good movies, the best scams are usually administered and delivered by people who can't see at all, or are in denial that it is a scam at all. Many of them sincerely believe in what they are doing even.

If you take the Monkey Cage Route, and stick your teeth into the Monkey Dance, you will have enough spare energy after hours, to write passionate essays, which dissect your every dance move.

Dance Monkey, Dance !

Piss off with all your "monkey dance" crap. I don't even care if it's true, it's just repetitive, inane and boring to read. I bet you're just one person posting under various names, "La Babizon" being just the latest, writing the same garbage over and over again. I wish they'd bring back registration. We might get some more proper discussion, and anyone checking the blogs wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that everyone who posts here is a troll like you. You're more like a dancing monkey yourself - anything and everything that gets posted here triggers exactly the same response. You're boring even by troll standards.

Oh come on, don\'t talk about him like that! This guy used to be my entertainment over on Nova Teachers United. Have you never seen nor heard of the infamous \"Nova Dicky\" on there?

Not too sure why he doesn\'t post there any more. Must be too busy dishing out porridge to starving Africans, and watching them getting shot in the head (he works for some \"charity\" organization, yet complains about Nova and eikaiwa - LOL, what a loser!)

Why the heightened sensitivity Mr X?

You know Eikaiwa is essentially a stop-over point for glorified working holiday / back-packer types, and that is has evolved that way, essentially because of the “Monkey Dance” aspect of the Greater Eikaiwa Show.

That’s why people don’t hang around, that’s why people don’t take the job seriously (accept for the odd one or two in any given area). They simply can’t take being a Monkey Dancer seriously, for more than a very short period of time.

I think all you are doing is engaging in a game of tit for tat. Frankly, I find your efforts to dissect the innards of Eikaiwa (which needs know dissection, because it is so obvious what is is), just as troll like and just as tedious as you find “Monkey Dance” comments.

Who do you think you are? The Messiah of Eikaiwa, who through steady and mature consistency while on-line, is going to drag the filthy business from the gutter, and make it respectable?

Good luck in any such endeavour, but my view, and the view of many, is that you engage in an exercise of futility, mind you, with conditions in Eikaiwa going from bad to shocking, all the while.

Why on earth would “Monkey Dance” comments grind at you so badly anyway?

Anyone would think someone had taken a deep, personal, swipe at you.

You have reasons for being a dedicated long-term Monkey Dancer, and I am quite fine with that, so don’t take things so personally please.

Serving up language entrails? How dare you insult good people doing their best under the circumstances they find themselves in. Who are you that makes you think you can label all of us as dancing monkies or circus clowns? Our employers might have bad reputations but most of us give it our best and make the most of it. I work in Eikaiwa and I am proud of it. It has its pitfalls but I do the best I can by my employer and by my students as a matter of pride. No matter how hard you try I will not think of myself as a monkey doing a monkey dance next time I am in my teaching suite. The thought will not even enter my head, not for one second. You hear me? Now go away! We teach and we teach well which anyone with half a brain can see in this typical lesson video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r4xYqhc3Ns

Just had a look at Nova Teachers United. He seems to be a bit of a celebrity on there! Plenty of references on the search button to "monkey dance", and "monkey in a cage". Seems to be a bit of a fixation!

Yeah, he sure is a celebrity nutcase alright. He blamed me for the predicament that Nova teachers found themselves in after the crash. He said I\'d persuaded thousands of people to go to Japan to work for Nova, just by posting on Nova Teachers United forum, only for them to lose their jobs once they got over there. Apparently, that made me responsible for them all being on the streets eating cup noodles and stale sushi.

Strange as it may seem, I do miss our exchanges on there. He may be a nutcase, but he\'s an entertaining nutcase!

Why the heightened sensitivity Mr X? ...

(etc etc etc)

You have reasons for being a dedicated long-term Monkey Dancer, and I am quite fine with that, so don’t take things so personally please.

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A very quick skim of all that reveals nothing really worth reading. Same vague, boring stuff as always. Go away, troll.

Just had a look at Nova Teachers United. He seems to be a bit of a celebrity on there! Plenty of references on the search button to "monkey dance", and "monkey in a cage". Seems to be a bit of a fixation!

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By his own account he didn't last six months in eikaiwa, but it seems to have had a profoundly damaging effect. Getting fired for being crap in eikaiwa schools is quite a rare feat, maybe he just pulled it off and can't come to terms with it? I mean, most people who finish working in eikaiwa never look back, but he just can't seem to help himself.

Eikaiwa - The biggest thing in Dickie's life so far? No way. The biggest thing in Dickie's life so far was and is the internet man. I can't imagine what he'd be doing without it and I very much doubt that he can either.

6 months in eikaiwa? Yes, it's very hard to believe that someone's consciousness could get so completely dominated by the eikaiwa phenomenon after 6 months of it, and remain so for years afterwards.

More likely that he's telling lies and spent much, much longer than that at the "coalface", but is too ashamed and embarrassed to admit it. It all smacks of the "I was too intelligent to do eikaiwa and get lorded over by some uneducated, dimwit trainer and manager, but was too useless to get out and find a job worthy of my intelligence" syndrome.

Those are the types that continually feel the need to bash eikaiwa and eikaiwa teachers, for years after the event. Just watch, he'll now imagine that I'm an eikaiwa teacher.

Nova Dicky - now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

I remember him posting on Nova Teachers United. He was very abusive, very bitter and angry about his whole Nova experience.

Apparently he now runs his own charity organization. I sincerely hope that's giving him more happiness and fulfilment than he got working at Nova.

I understand that this site is all about the Monkey Business of Eikaiwa, and the Eternal Monkey Dance performed by Under-trained Impromptu Circus Clowns (who form the majority of Eikaiwa’s worker population).

While it flattering that you seem fixated on me, and crap on about me ad infinitum, may I humbly suggest to all of you, that you stick to topic?

Thank you.

Now, Dance Monkey, Dance!

LOL !!!!!!!!

Now that IS funny !!!!!

"A very quick skim of all that reveals nothing really worth reading. Same vague, boring stuff as always. Go away, troll."

That's the best way to deal with him most of the time. His inane ramblings and diatribes get very repetitive and tedious, containing the same old theme:

- Nova was "the Evil Empire"
- Everyone working there was a dancing monkey
- Anyone that says anything that even remotely supports of any aspect of Nova - e.g. "I had a nice 7B student", "I happened to have a comfy chair", or "the microwave in the teachers room was good" - is a kiss-ass, pro-Nova stooge and deserves to be hanged

I guess it was those tedious, repetitive 7B listen and repeats that he had to do, over and over and over and over and over again, for 6 months (my ass) that drove him to this level of monotony. He's admitted to since traipsing round third world shitholes dishing out porridge to starving "nig-nogs", watching them getting their brains blown out for stealing Pepsis. That obviously hasn't helped him either.

Need proof?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1431038195362274085

They’re Monkeys, no doubt about it.

I understand that this site is all about the Monkey Business of Eikaiwa, and the Eternal Monkey Dance performed by Under-trained Impromptu Circus Clowns (who form the majority of Eikaiwa’s worker population).

Which you seem to have absolutely nothing worthwhile or interesting to say about. Why do you even bother coming here?

While it flattering that you seem fixated on me, and crap on about me ad infinitum, may I humbly suggest to all of you, that you stick to topic?

Why? Is all this talk about you and your career screw-ups getting a bit uncomfortable? Awww. You seem to be a classic case of a total eikaiwa loser yourself (either too useless to find anything better than eikaiwa or too useless even for eikaiwa), which makes you very relevant to the topic.

Keen? You wish. Please feel free to assume all you like, and ping pong what you imagine the best fit is, to deflect from and disguise your reality, which is a well known and documented reality, Mr Monkey Dancer. You do what you have to do, and that's fine, but don't expect any respect for it, and don't expect people to stop calling an ace an ace, or a spade a spade, or a monkey dancer a monkey dancer, just because the reality of your sorry lot is too confronting for you.

This discussion has drifted pretty far off the original topic, i.e. the Japan Times article about Nova. Maybe time to close it down? There doesn't seem to be much else to say.

Which you seem to have absolutely nothing worthwhile or interesting to say about. Why do you even bother coming here?

The guy's just winding you up. The only reason he seems to come here is to, as he sees it, "poke fun" and "take the piss" out of eikaiwa instructors, real or otherwise.

He thinks you're a wanker for working in eikaiwa, therefore you're fair game for him (for reasons I've already described).

You're just egging him on and giving him what he wants by responding to him. He'll keep coming back for more.

You're just egging him on and giving him what he wants by responding to him. He'll keep coming back for more.

True. Time to just ignore him completely.

Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater - when you get out of your habit of posting under various handles simply to provoke a reaction because you imagine the person you are posting to is someone else (Bob Tench, for example, among many other demons that seem to live in your subconscious), then your calls for not feeding the trolls may get listened to by all, and you may then feel that long awaited sense of respect and control that you need.

You get my point? You need to de-troll yourself first, before sticking TROLL post-its on other peoples foreheads.

Please take this criticism constructively, because you only get as good as you give, in fact.

Just because I have no respect for Eikaiwa, just because I have no respect for most long-term Eikaiwa workers, and view Eikaiwa as a circus, and by and large, it's workers as performing monkeys, should not result in the series of dedicated posts that continue to focus on guess work, fuelled by the reality of Eikaiwa being spelt out in blunt, simple terms, being too difficult for some hyper-sensitive old farts to accommodate.

If you can't hack words like Monkey Dance, then that's your problem, not mine.

I think the only reason using such words provokes such personal and vitriolic stab in the dark replies, is because it cuts deep to the bone of the reality of doing booth time, nothing more, nothing less.

In other words, the truth is too confronting...........for some

However, the more people know the truth, in simple terms, the better.

True. Time to just ignore him completely.

Yep, as predicted, nothing worth reading or replying to, just inflammatory and delusional comments.

I would like to hear from people who work for G-com Nova at the moment.
What is it like?
Pay?
Bosses?
Job satisfaction?
Lessons?
J-Staff?

Just curious. No one seems to post much about it.

"I must admit that I was surprised at that decision, because I didn't think the Nova brand had any value anymore given the scale of the collapse," Thir says. "I'm still amazed that G.communication still uses the Nova brand."

It never had much real value before the collapse. It might have some if they just junked the entire NOVA system and started again from scratch, but they've probably got this stupid idea that it can still somehow be turned back into a cash cow.

The pay is generally around Y250,000. Old NOVA promotion and qualification allowances got slashed, as did salary increments. Instructors can get more by agreeing to transfer anywhere, either temporarily or indefinitely, but in general getting more money depends on schools getting more students and having full classes.

The bosses, i.e. the people right at the top, all seem to be useless, crooked or certifiable.

Job satisfaction? It could be argued that the students are getting ripped off and not really learning much at all, which isn't so nice to be complicit in, but then again I think the same could be said of most "educational" institutions in Japan. I wouldn't get much job satisfaction working in public or private schools forcing teenagers to cram for stupid and pointless entrance exams, or working in a university and having to just pass everyone no matter how crap they are at English.

The lessons and J-staff are probably all about the same as before, except that there are a lot less staff about nowadays. A lot less schools and instructors as well.

So did any of the former top brass survive either on the Japanese of Gaijin side?

It would be a travesty if they did. Especially the gaijin side. I hear there are a couple.

I was based in Sendai. Are there any schools there now? Who calls the shots?

So did any of the former top brass survive either on the Japanese of Gaijin side?

It would be a travesty if they did. Especially the gaijin side. I hear there are a couple.

It seems a few westerners hung around for a while but eventually quit. Flemming Lord worked for G.education in some capacity but has since got out. I seriously doubt any Japanese NOVA executives were able to move across to G.com, but I think they re-employed a lot of the area managers and other mid-level people.

I was based in Sendai. Are there any schools there now? Who calls the shots?

Apparently there are two schools in Sendai. They may be directly managed by Jibun Mirai Holdings (JMH), who took over the NOVA brand and most of the schools from G.communication, or by a subsidiary of G.communication that decides salary and working conditions but basically runs them like JMH franchises.

Value?

There was never any legitimate value in it.

Nova only ever “made money”, on the surface, when rate of sales exceeded rate of being able to deliver lessons – bank accounts under those circumstances were cash positive (and boy did they pump that money out the door, via one scam or another, as fast as they could), but IF you deducted, in those heady days, the cost of the lessons yet to be delivered, NOVA in fact did not make a red cent (ever).

Yes people, it was a scam, from the outset. Nothing more than a monkey-dancing scam from day one, which the Nova “BIG BRASS” always knew would ultimately collapse, at the expense of the customers and it’s workers.

It was a criminal style business model, with the aim to fleece people from inception, being the prime objective.

I loved the desperation in the air, just before Bob Sixpence’s infamous METI intervention, where the Chief Monkey thought, if he just opened more and more and more and more branches, forever and ever, his scam would just simply go on forever, undetected.

At one point, I was expecting Nova Branches to start popping up in BUM FUCK, to compete with the Mild Seven machines. You remember that place don't you? You know, the one where that chain smoking mild seven teacher ended up with nothing more than a hard on and a deck of mild seven in his hands, after see a flash of some waitresses underpants.

Apart from that, thank you Mr X for verifying that Nova is STILL the bottom of the dung heap to work for, and is not worth considering, for you Joe Blow normal person.

One big change is that G.education/JMH made is that no one has to pay huge amounts of money for hundreds of lesson points any more - students just pay for 5, 10 or 20 lessons at a time and "expired" points are just carried over if they buy more. GEOS and AEON still have payment systems similar to the old NOVA one, and although they never had the same expansion frenzy I think GEOS paid the price for failing to adapt. Makes me wonder how AEON are getting on these days, there's never any talk about them. Incidentally, they sound crap to work for as well.

In support of my argument that eikaiwa, far from being an aberration from the norm is merely an unsightly symptom of a more general malaise in the field of language teaching. One that results in biased conclusions even amongst academic researchers in favour of the prevailing business model, see this excellent rebuttal of a paper in support of the value of explicit grammar instruction.

http://www.tprstories.com/ijflt/IJFLTJuly07.pdf

Understanding this article will in addition point to clear reasons why the Nova model as it was practiced for decades never worked and why those teachers who engaged in 'free conversation' whilst not being especially effective teachers were in fact doing their students a bigger favour than those who religiously stuck with the program.

Hey you, what argument? You are arguing with yourself. None of the rest of us could care less. Get out and chase some tail. Eikaiwa is a pick up joint. Take advantage of it and stop thinking so deeply. It's a meat market. Enjoy the meat or do somethin else.

What I think is that Eikaiwa offers the unique environment to pretty much get away with a hell of a lot.

That means you can use whatever methodology you think is best.

Of course that excludes the times when your uneducated, drop dead dickhead, ladder climbing, brain the size of a pea supervisor is watching or listening to your lesson, but most of the time, it’s a case of do as you please, as long as your students are pleased.

So there is effectively no argument. Eikaiwa offers the best environment for you to do as you damn well want when it comes to teaching the native tongue of Mother England.

For those who like to view themselves as having an intellectual interest, well, you can use Eikaiwa as a linguistic experimental laboratory, and get tremendous satisfaction from that, if that is what rings your bell.

The only problems are, the shit awful salary, the number of lessons you have to squeeze in, and the total absence of job security or career path, and the place being populated by and large, by disinterested back-packers or homeland societal drop- outs.

If you can overcome those obstacles, then it is a linguistic intellect’s nirvana.

It's what YOU make of it, that counts. That's what it all boils down to.

This is pretty much the point. Eikaiwa is a country where you can pretty much do as you like, as long as your preferred methodology doesn't happen to include regular scheduled classes, following an incremental path with a homogenous group of learners for a period of time long enough to test whether or not your methodology works or not. You know, things that most 'normal' educational institutions do. As long as your preferred methodology doesn't include anything like that, then you are good to go with just about anything.

But why is that possible? It's possible of course because the 'normal' systems of education which work fine in some areas (for example, Math) work extraordinarily badly in the field of languages. The results of this system are so piss poor that you can indeed get away with doing just about anything you like in what passes for private language education, because there is literally nothing better to compare it to.

If that were not the case, then the Eikaiwa market would pretty soon shrivel up and dissappear.

Understanding this article will in addition point to clear reasons why the Nova model as it was practiced for decades never worked and why those teachers who engaged in 'free conversation' whilst not being especially effective teachers were in fact doing their students a bigger favour than those who religiously stuck with the program.

The NOVA system never worked because the idea that students can turn up any time they like and get random lessons taught by random instructors ("Just pick a lesson they haven't done in the last three months"), not do any kind of homework, drop out for as long as they like and still improve their English ability is inherently nonsense.

Yes. The article points to clear reasons why the method never worked. However, it does not point out all the reasons. Random, low quantity (1hr per week) input or less is definitely another reason set to take into consideration. However, I, whilst I was working at Nova I had the opportunity to teach a few people who came far more frequently than the usual 1 hr per week or less norm. Their progress was generally better than that of the average person but by no means exponentially so - as one would reasonably expect to be the case. There were exceptions to this, but I would be inclined to put that down to either the better strategies that they were using in their outside of the program studies or to their unique brains. In addition to this I had one opportunity to teach a kid who was not only coming far more often than the norm (five times a week) but also was on a fixed program - ie not random. This was where you really got to see just how bad the Nova program really was. This kid was coming 5 days a week for christ's sake She was learning a whole lot of vocabulary yes. She was learning to parrot a whole lot of isolated grammar patterns, yes. But was she getting anywhere at all with the development of real conversational ability in English? No Absolutely not. Her parents were spending an absolute fortune for a pile of total crap (believe it or not both of them were doctors). My heart still bleeds for that poor 8 year old girl coming to Nova Monday to Friday for her nightly hour of bullshit.

Oh yeah. Eikaiwa is just a way to get laid, say some. Tell that to the kids who got tortured by the Nova 'system' of education, and whose education in the mainstream schools will only be marginally less painful and ineffective.

In addition to this I had one opportunity to teach a kid who was not only coming far more often than the norm (five times a week) but also was on a fixed program - ie not random. This was where you really got to see just how bad the Nova program really was. This kid was coming 5 days a week for christ's sake She was learning a whole lot of vocabulary yes. She was learning to parrot a whole lot of isolated grammar patterns, yes. But was she getting anywhere at all with the development of real conversational ability in English? No Absolutely not. Her parents were spending an absolute fortune for a pile of total crap (believe it or not both of them were doctors). My heart still bleeds for that poor 8 year old girl coming to Nova Monday to Friday for her nightly hour of bullshit.

Yes, but for an 8 year-old Japanese girl growing up in Japan, what use is real conversational ability in English anyway? Chances are the only times she'll be using any English will be in other English classes, and all she'll be required to do in them is memorise lots of grammar and vocabulary so that she can pass stupid entrance exams. The most "conversation" she's likely to do is in the Eiken interview test, which is so formulaic that it's ridiculously easy to coach kids for. Are you sure that's not all the parents wanted? I think that the extent to which conversational ability actually develops is determined by what people do outside of classes - at best, teachers can get students to review and preview lesson materials and do meaningful, useful home study tasks in their free time, but other than than it's all down to actual opportunities and reasons people have to use the language. If all parents want is for kids to pass exams, then developing real conversational ability is, sadly, a waste of time.

Actually, this was supposed to be preparation for the family to move to New York. She came 5 nights a week for 8 months and got nowhere, really. She would have learned far more, and got more enjoyment from a good home reading program of some kind. Her parents could have saved themselves a bundle that way too.

Lets me clear on a few things:

i. The failure of Nova had nothing to do with teaching methods used. Nova failed because it had a deceitful pyramid scheme style business model, which was doomed to ultimately fail from the outset. It was all about selling more than it could ever possibly deliver. It was essentially a criminally objectified scam.
ii. I doubt you would have any clue as to whether their old teaching methodologies failed or not. Any data you do have, I would not mind betting would not be Nova specific at all. In other words, what you say is generalised crap.
iii. Plenty of academic articles can be found that claim the opposite of what you are saying – so what you post, is no more “proof” or “fact” that something the cat dragged in.
iv. By remarkable coincidence, you seem to be plugging for the “new” Nova teaching system.
v. So, what data do you have that is Nova specific that shows the increased success rate, compared with the Nova of old? Nova published material perhaps, or just generic stuff, with a particular slant, that happens to support your general theme and bang on?

Whatever you want to say, nothing will change the fact that the majority of Nova teachers, to this very day, including the “big brass”, are not qualified to teach language, and in most cases, have no interest in the academic side of the equation at all.

Accordingly, and fittingly, Nova offers abysmal salaries, no job security, and no career path.

End of story.

1 There is a difference between the 'business' failure of Nova to which you are referring and the failure to assist students in learning to which I am referring. Although I would agree that there is a strong relationship between Nova's attitudes to business, and their failure to take language learning very seriously.

2 I worked for Nova for two years at the bridge point between the 'old' system which was pervaded by the one-point grammar learning system of the Streamline series (a text that Nova used for decades) and the 'new' system, which used a vocabulary and phrase based text produced in-house. As one of the people at my branch was closely involved in the production of these texts I had the opportunity to discuss the nature and rationale of these texts with them fairly closely as well as to see and use them first hand. Niether of us were particularly impressed with what we saw developing. The end result addressed a few problems, whilst leaving the core ones unattended.

iii The academic article that I cited is a deconstruction of the very academic articles you say exist. So this point is moot.

iv I am not plugging for the New Nova teaching system, or any other system. On the contrary, I believe that the benefits of explicit instruction of any kind in language learning are decidedly limited at this time. And the benefits of explicit instruction at Nova would be extremely so.

v I do not believe that the new Nova is any more successful than the old. It was unsucessful then and is still unsuccessful now. I also think it is likely that the quality of student experience has gone down rather than up. However, I have no data on this subject because I have not worked for Nova for many years.

Finally, your whole series of points takes the form of a personal attack that is not based at all on my views or interests as regards the nature of language learning and the language learning industry. If you are not yourself interested in the things I am talking about then the best thing to do would be to ignore my posts rather than resort to personal invective.

I think Mr anonymous should actually write to these academics directly about this. They'd be the best people to address his concerns to, rather than an audience of one or two on an Internet thread that has nothing to do with academic ESOL and language learning!

It looks like the guy/gal has spent years working for Nova, while rambling on in here as if some kind of intellectual or academic.

I don’t think whoever it is realizes the two don’t go hand in hand, and to add to the time waste of their Nova life they continue to do the same in here, by writing bullshit.

They say it takes 10,000 dedicated hours to become an expert, at anything.

Imagine doing 10,000 hours of Nova Book One, then 10,000 hours of Nova Book Two.

Really, people, the person writing all this rubbish we should listen to, due to their expertise.

There have been some jokers in this place over the years, but I gotta say, this latest one, takes the cake.

The only "difference" worth identifying Mr Anonymous, is that compared with many people obviously the Eikaiwa experience has totally blown your head gasket. Don't worry though. You wouldn't be the first, and you won't be the last.

J

Hey Bro, Anonymous. The good old days of English Conversation Teaching aint ever comin’ back. Ever. And u know what? Ain’t nobody udder dan uself gives a crap about dat. It’s just you Crusayda, on your ownsem, playing dat violin of yours in an empty hall that closed it’s door years ago. You R one real sad mudder farker, real sad.

I am active on a number of sites, and as it happens I am in communication with some academics. I do not agree that my line of analysis is irrelevant to the site. For example, I have read numerous opinions on this site regarding the benefits of legitimising one's language teaching efforts by taking CELTA courses, DELTA courses applied linuistics courses and so on. I would question whether taking such courses would necessarily make one any more legitimate as a language teacher.

Oh god, here we go, the Celta/Delta posts are back. Haven't you got anything better to do with your time Uri? Is some big news on Geos is about to hit town which you're trying to deflect from? Or is this your latest plan for gaining more business, trying to push some new bullshit language teaching method you've devised, on this and other websites?

Uri says: "The communicative method, as peddled by Universities worldwide, as well as Cambridge and Trinity's lame-assed Celta course, is complete hogwash. I know better, it's all bullshit. Look, even the academics say it, which is why we at Geos NA are proud to announce our new, cheap, effective method of language instruction. And what makes it so new, cheap and effective? Because the teacher does no teaching, and instead, the student just sits there and does whatever they like. If they don't want to be there, fine, they can go home!! How great is that??!!"

Yayyyy, way to go Uri! I bet all these academics you're in touch with love that!!

I am active on a number of sites, and as it happens I am in communication with some academics.

Valiant attempt to raise the standard of discussion, but if the three comments preceding yours, especially the one with lots of commas, are anything to go by I'd say you're wasting your time with these open forums.

I do not agree that my line of analysis is irrelevant to the site.

You might have to use much simpler words than that for some of the people here.

Someone with academic contacts in ESOL would not write about this sort of stuff on a forum like this. His posts are disingenuous. I'd advise ignoring them.

Just watch how this sets off another string of posts about trolls, troglodytes and monkeys.

Academics are normal people. They don't live on another planet. Some of them limit their contacts due to work pressures etc. whereas others are very approachable, especially if they are policitally/publicly active. Most people who have completed post graduate qualifications have at least a few academic contacts available to them.

Oh god, here we go, the Celta/Delta posts are back. Haven't you got anything better to do with your time Uri?

Ah, the Uri stalkers are back. Do you turn up on other sites, blaming Uri for other stuff as well, like the bombardment of Homs and the Eurozone crisis? All that stuff in the Japan Times article about NOVA and GABA, it's all down to Uri, I suppose? Go away, troll.

It is quite obvious that Anonymous is a troll though. You can at least agree on that. Not only a toll BUT a troll with a serious amount of spare time on it's hands.

Been around.

Seen a lot of stuff.

I was doing it tough in the early days of Nova, buildn’ a dream, when half you sorry lot were still in diapers.

You think you know Eikaiwa? You don’t don’t know nuthin!

I tell ya. I seen a few Eikaiwa trolls in my time. I seen em come. I seen em go.

Oh yeah, they’re around alright.

One pain in the ass troll, stinkin' thing been around in one shape or another for a good 15 years, we traced that son of a bitch back to Central Avenue, Great Falls, and the cheaker do-no-gooder was reporting to be livin’ in Japan.

Son of a bitch!

Anyways, we smoked that rat tail out, but the point is boys n girls, these trolls are tricky, these trolls are clever. Don't under-estimate em.

One thing for sure, us old-timers know that right here, right now, you have a ripe one on your hands.

Oh yeah, we ain’t seen a troll quite as ripe at this Mr Anonymous for quite some time.

Batten down the hatches peoples. You are in for one hell of a ride.

It is quite obvious that Anonymous is a troll though. You can at least agree on that. Not only a toll BUT a troll with a serious amount of spare time on it's hands.

I'm not so sure I can agree - this person doesn't seem to be going out of their way to be offensive or inflammatory, and does appear to be trying to stay on topic by referencing NOVA while saying that all ELT everywhere is in fact a waste of time. I don't find that nearly as tedious as the various individuals who've been here going on and on about CELTA, GEOS NA and dancing monkeys.

I was looking at the salary structure yesterday of a major company. CEO was on a salary of 8 million dollars plus benefits, there were a range of middle managers under him in the 7 figures, with division and departmental managers being on anywhere from $150,000 to $800,000. The average office jockeys – their salaries were from about $60,000 up to about $95,000, depending on their longevity or individual role. The bottom of the bottom were on about $45,000, but those ranks were filled by young, unqualified, inexperienced people.

Anyways, I hear a lot of talk about Eikaiwa companies being major corporations with definite career paths.

I was just curious, about the spread of salaries in the Eikaiwa career path.

I think it is typical wage in Eikaiwa is around $37,000 per year (about 250000 yen per month, or well below the median income for full-time working men in the USA).

Does anyone know what the top-notch foreigner who has climbed to the top gets?

What do middle foreign managers get?

The thing is in a place like Japan I know I will barely be able to feed myself or my family on $37,000 per year. I will need to climb that ladder as fast as I can. I don’t expect to get the same sort of money as the CEO mentioned above or the wage of many of his underlings. But to meet my commitments and to keep my family going I will need at least $90,000.

Is this possible in the Eikaiwa Corporations?

I am thinking about starting a career in an Eikaiwa Corporation but I need to know what my maximum take home can be to understand if it is worth it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Most people have no problem with the work in eikaiwa. As in any business, there are whiners and complainers. The ones who complain about it though are usually those who've never had a real job in their lives. They usually end up as stalkers, trolls and sock-puppeters on websites like this.

As for the eikaiwa salary, I found it more than adequate for living in Japan, and I was able to save as well. I didn't live like a king, but I didn't want to. I came to Japan to meet hot Japanese women, and I can tell you, I wasn't disappointed!

Peter Sutcliffe, a question for you.
Have you ever considered someone might just be taking the piss out of you, and gets a perverse thrill from the time and energy you put into well thought out, well considered, and mostly correct replies?
The reason I ask, is surely, the person you are corresponding with, in such a careful and considered manner, can’t be that stupid.

I see you were stupid enough to fall for my phoney intellectual posts, failing to notice that I was taking the piss out of me AND you.

Clueless - that's what I love about ya ;)

Who is the idiot in here asking about career paths? It’s probably Whacko “taking the piss” again (hand covers mouth and giggles to oneself). If not, well what career path? You are either taking the piss or you must have an anvil inside your putty like skull, instead of a brain. Blind Freddy and his pet dog, Yap Yap Shit For Brains, the Lap Dancing Poodle, know THERE IS NO CAREER PATH IN EIKAIWA, so how about you put a sock in it and move along? Hmmm?

The emotionality is really not necessary.

However you are correct.

There is no meaningful career path in Eikaiwa.

If you compare the Eikaiwa with just about any other industry you can fast conclude that it is actually erroneous and deceitful to call the limited pathway one can follow in Eikaiwa “a career path” to begin with.

In addition staying in Eikaiwa as an instructor for anymore than a working holiday period of time is the equivalent of committing financial and career suicide.

They present an illusion of a significant career path being available to present an illusion of both hope and structure to the instructor population.

They do this for two reasons only:

Knowing that teaching 8 lessons a day is an absurd workload, they tangle imaginary carrots in order to maximize the length of time before the instructor reaches “burn out” point. Some argue they have extended that time from 3 months to approximately 9 months, by employing this methodology, with the specific aim of reducing recruitment and training costs. In other words the average turnover time of staff has increased from 3 to 9 months.

The Japanese themselves are not good at handling confrontation when it comes to “outsiders”. They offer willing drones a couple hundred bucks extra per month, give them a title, and get them to handle it.

The average instructor salary is around USD 37,000 per year, and the average middle to senior manager is around USD 41,000 per year. Both salaries are close to what it costs to live in Japan and if one lives a very frugal life they may save around USD 500 per month. There are some people who resort to eating lots of rice and not going out who have reported that they can save up to USD 1000 per month. You can use your imagination to figure out what kind of life you would have in Japan living off around USD 2000 per month. That’s right, a very, very, very limited life.

On gentleman we know of lived in Japan working as an instructor for 8 years. He saved on average USD 500 per month. His total savings over 8 years added up to USD 48,000, with no retirement benefits having been paid. Eikaiwa does not offer any retirement benefits. Half his money disappeared in the first six months of returning back to the USA while he readjusted and looked for work. He finally found work as a waiter in a casino and had USD 24,000 left. He then purchased a car which left him with USD 10,000. So, at the end of eight years of teaching the same lessons over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again the gentleman in question ended up working as a waiter and had USD 10,000 of Eikaiwa savings left in his account. Translated to monthly savings during the duration of his time in Eikaiwa: USD104 per month, with no retirement savings having been paid at all.

And then what happened? The casino folded, the long term Eikaiwa worker was out on the streets, and the USD 10,000 grand total of 8 years of Eikaiwa savings quickly went down to USD 1,230, and then came the GFC.

Since the GFC the person in the case study who had been a long-term advocate of Eikaiwa has by and large stopped posting.

He is now presumed dead.

...does anyone know when the Japanese government is going to pay the remainder of the instructors' salaries? A little bit came in last year, but I'm wondering if there has been talk about the final payment owed.

I worked at a NOVA just out of Tokyo. Atsuko was a nice girl; eagerly trying to please all, making the best of her low paid, low benefit position with the looney (even by Japanese standards) 'company' she chose to work for -despite the warnings- after her college fun.

This girl, from the burbs of Yokohama, would go to the optional (but if you don't go ya fired) meetings in Tokyo. Saruhashi (in all his fucking splendor) would appear, after keeping his very captive audience waiting for several hours, DRUNK as a SKUNK, and ejaculate from his mouth some tripe that no doubt was highly appreciated and well received by all. Got to get the last train, home for a few hours, genki- drink, early train, back to work (have to open the big roller door).

The boss was new. Bitch on wheels. Wanted results and Atsuko wasn't giving. Sales? Not enough. You screwed up again. Time for another little 'talk'. There was a cellar, fitted out as classroom. This is where the boss would do her 'talking', and Atsuko would be on the receiving end. A swollen, red face from crying, sitting at her desk quiet for the afternoon; the other girls silent save the robotic NOVA sales dribble. Cut the air with a fucking knife.

Still think about her. I'm sure she didn't meet her gaijin Prince Charming who would sweep her off to paradise. Hope she married dorky but stable Kenji who works at Toshiba. Hope she has a quiet life; kids, friends, TV, cooking, Disney-shit, Kenji says 'tadaima'. Wonder if she ever thinks back to her eikaiwa days...

What a load of crap you spew...

I think the same could be said of most "educational" institutions in Japan. I wouldn't get much job satisfaction working in public or private schools forcing teenagers to cram for stupid and pointless entrance exams

This assumes of course that every public and private school is the same.

or working in a university and having to just pass everyone no matter how crap they are at English.

This also assumes the above, with the added proviso that all foreigners at Japanese universities teach English, only English and nothing but English.

I have plenty of anecdotal evidence that disproves your assertions, but do you have any to support what you say? Pray tell, how many eikaiwa in Japan are International Baccaleaureate certified? How many eikaiwa offer instruction in all subject areas taught by qualified instructors completely in English?

Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.

Whatever you want to say, nothing will change the fact that the majority of Nova teachers, to this very day, including the “big brass”, are not qualified to teach language, and in most cases, have no interest in the academic side of the equation at all.

Accordingly, and fittingly, Nova offers abysmal salaries, no job security, and no career path.

End of story.

Harsh to those who don't want to acknowledge it, but ultimately a fair and accurate assessment.

Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.

No point in bothering with a reply, then.

Because you are not as nearly as knowledgeable about this subject as you pretend to be.

Notwithstanding the reality that Nova to this day is the most broadly criticised of them all, well at least it provides an atmosphere where workers can foster and cultivate their international human spirit and emotions.

I found the gracefully written story of Atsuko to be both beautiful and touching.

Indeed, from an emotional discovery’s perspective, it was poignantly profound and insightful.

Images of her swollen face from crying, and wondering if her dream came true and whether or not she does get to hear Kenji’s “Tadaima” (and empty his entire pay packet) each day, bought a tear to my eye.

It is so easy to complain, but it is those sorts of heartfelt connections that Nova makes possible.

The next time I think ill of my job, my employer, or Japan, I will remember the story of Atsuko, and I will think twice (ignoring the fact that is was official Nova policy back in the day for foreign managers to ward off complaints from instructors by saying “if you think you have got it tough, you have it nowhere near as tough as the girls at the front desk”).

Yes, the role of being a White Knight in Shining Armour is one that an instructor can play (a bit of a fantasy and turn-on playing along with it, actually – can put a sparkle in your otherwise dull day), in a land where the little office girls are so over-worked and abused.

It can be so hard to resist the Sirens.

I have wondered why the author did not stand up to the plate, and whisk Atsuko to his land of milk and honey.

My only guess is that he had already betrothed himself to one of the other sad, innocent and sweet little girls that fill the offices of Japan, and was faced with a conflict of interests.

Yes, poor little Atsuko.

All she ever wanted was Kenji (and his wallet), and failing that, between tears (and between endless cups of tea and endless gossip with the other girls and the front desk), she had a sweet and innocent dream of being rescued by John Citizen Instructor.

Ah yes, the story of Atsuko, written by another one of your sock puppets.

Man, don’t feel sorry for Atsuko. Her kind are a dime a dozen over there. The attraction they have to work in Eikaiwa is two fold:

**** It increases their marriage prospects to Japan’s guys and the rights to control their incomes because Japanese guys see women who can speak English as being potentially more useful during schooling years if they have children
*** If they fall off the marriage merry-go-round in Japan (reach or approach Christmas Cake Age), they still have the opportunity of hooking a foreigner and moving on).

Don’t let the odd tear or two fool you if and when a sales dragon comes to town.

When the dragons aren't around, most of the time those little gals are sitting out the front talking bullshit and shooting the breeze. Would you marry Chris? Na, he is too emotions and I don’t like his hair. How about John? It’s you who does the hours face to face with the idiots. All they do is suck them in. You are the one that has to tend to their entrails when the minor task of fleecing is accomplished. Worry more of your own tears than theirs.

Would you please desist from signing posts with the names of English serial killers please? It's frankly sick, twisted and disgusting, and insensitive to the families of the victims.

“It increases their marriage prospects to Japan’s guys and the rights to control their incomes because Japanese guys see women who can speak English as being potentially more useful during schooling years if they have children”

You forgot to add that Japanese Salary Men who look like they may get posted overseas see benefit in having a wife who can speak English. It’s not just about schooling.

The insurance side you mention is very real.

Atsuko and women like Atsuko do view instructors as an emergency last resort with regards to their genetically and culturally engineered zombie compulsion to marry and produce two offspring.

Working in Eikaiwa for them is like being in a smorgasbord of marriage prospects.

First pickings are well-healed salary men studying English for a future overseas posting

Second pickings are salary men studying English for a potential promotion.

Third pickings are salary men studying English for whatever.

Fourth and final pickings are Foreign White Knights in Shining Armor who can save them a lot of social embarrassment and awkwardness after marriage by removing them from Japan entirely.

Even rhetorical questions can't be answered
Because you are not as nearly as knowledgeable about this subject as you pretend to be.

Neither are you, if you actually think rhetorical questions are supposed to be answered. But the real reason I can't be bothered replying is that you come across as a patronizing, offensive twat.

Hear hear Michael. It's disgusting that people treat the issue of serial murder as if it's something to laugh and take the piss about. If I had my way, I'd bang the lot of you up in Yodok prison camp, and throw away the key.

Speaking of murderers, I can’t help thinking about poor Atsuko meeting that guy who has the fascination with cricket bats and African’s heads being pulverized. Puts a shiver down my spine. Poor Atsuko. I hope she is OK.

You're a disturbed man to make associations like that William. Have you thought about treatment?

I share the concern. Because Eikaiwa is what it is that kind of person could be in close proximity to sweet little girls like Atsuko. Not only are most Eikaiwa teachers unqualified. There are also no background checks carried out. Ponder for a second. I shudder to think. The ramifications are actually enormous. Who are really behind the faces of the people teaching all those little kiddies? A person who goes to lawless Africa to participate in ritual slaughter during his holidays perhaps? An underpants thief? Perhaps a compulsive masturbator with a scat fetish? How about a person with a morbid fascination about sociopathic murderers? Who exactly does get in under the radar? I kind of appreciate the fixation on heads being bashed in though. I can remember towards the end of one lesson for a fleeting moment thinking the person sitting in front of me needed to be whacked across the back of the head with a baseball bat. Not bashed to death though. Just a solid, sharp and swift whack. All over and done with in a split second. One of those insufferable days. His name was Kenji. I wonder if it was Atsuko’s Kenji?

Bashing somebody round the head with a cricket bat and watching their brains spill out is nothing really. I don't know why people get so worked up about it.

You sound genuinely concerned about the mental state of people that go to teach in Japan. What is it that makes them:
- Use the names of serial murderers?
- Talk about masturbation?
- Troll English in Japan websites for years on end?
- Crap on about Nova over and over for years on end?

It really is disturbing. Any answers?

On heads being pulverized and brains being splattered.

Yes the job is that repetitive and mundane many instructors at times think about it.

“Wouldn’t you love to just bash that boring asshole’s head in?”

“I swear to God if I have to teach that person again I am not responsible for my actions!”

Alternatively they think of their own heads exploding and pieces of their brains, or what is left of them, decorating the freshly pressed clothes of the students in front of them.

The phenomenon is widely discussed in the instructor community.

Everyone’s heard of it.

“Spontaneous Eikaiwa Induced Head Explosion”

It’s probably better work shopping homicidal thoughts out in here though, rather than carry through with it.

I doubt any instructor would act out any such fantasy however. Hopefully talking about it openly in here is at least provides some insurance against that unlikely event happening.

Why are you so fixated / addicted to what another person or people do or say?

If you think I am a troll, then what are you? Some kind of troll groupie or troll fanatic?

Once upon a time, perhaps extensively brain and spirit fried by Eikaiwa, a person may have vented on your then Eikaiwa innocence.

I don’t see anything that suggests they still do.

I think that time is long gone.

Do I represent something you feel compelled to exorcise?

If so then take the following as an olive branch.

If you have decided on Eikaiwa or Japan or a career in EFL then it is ok.

Good luck to you.

Dark humor put aside, my honest opinion?

Despite how Eikaiwa by and large butcher an otherwise honorable profession, and in my view are extremely unethical and by and large incompetent, a job in Eikaiwa is still one where people with good hearts can at least maintain their sense of dignity by working honorably themselves, regardless of the despicable framework that Eikaiwa provides.

Japan also has a very dark side. But it is interesting discovering that.

That’s as good as it gets from me.

And it was very difficult to even admit that.

Please take note.

I will try to say a few more good things as time goes by. But it is going to be hard.

I will try however.

Thank you for helping.

I might get there.

Thank you.

Why do you think I'm fixated on what another does and says? You flatter yourself, in your blind arrogance, when you think that someone over the internet has some sort of "addiction" to you. Besides, it's a very strange thing to construct such a social reality for yourself.

No addiction, fixation, "need to exorcise", or olive branches needed. It's all in your head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87GRjtvwZnM

Yes, yes, I see, you are quite right.

It is all in “MY” head.

Hmm. (cough, cough).

Yes, you are quite right, quite right.

Indeed, indeed, it is all in “MY” head. Hmmm. Interesting.

Actually you have no idea how well your therapy has been working for me.

On Tuesday night I am even going to see a Japanese film “Jiro Dreams of Sushi”, and where else of course, other than at the Cinema Nova!

Yes, can you believe it? At the Cinema Nova!

Who would have thought it even possible for me to consider stepping foot in any place with that “N” word in it!

Thanks to you, I am becoming so much better!

Happy! Happy! Happy!

Shut up and piss off you boring troll, and stop talking to yourself and projecting. Same old same old, just as your next post will be.

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