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Revised Visa Renewal Procedures Starting in 2010

According to the Ministry of Justice, effective April 1, 2010, you will have to show your health insurance card--either kenko kokumin hoken (National Health Insurance) or shakai hoken (Company Health Insurance)--when you apply to renew your visa or change your visa status. If you do not belong to one of these plans, you will be encouraged (forced?) to join or your visa could possibly be revoked.

How do you get coverage? You can apply for kenko kokumin hoken at your ward office; you can apply for shakai hoken through your employer.

It'll be interesting to see how the eikaiwas react to this. For decades, they have avoided enrolling their employees into the system by playing with the number of hours worked per week, a subject that was brought up here back in 2005..

h/t otakuman

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Fair enough. Not perfect but you can trust it. I have heard of some other insurance plans being a bit dodgy. And if they are then the universal system here backs you up anyway since it seems you can back pay and it covers pre-existing symptoms.

The eikaiwas and the dispatch companies have been avoiding to enroll workers into shakai hoken by claiming that you work only 29.5 hours. This is complete bullshit. Why have they been avoiding this for a long time? Under shakai hoken, the companies have to pay for 50% of the premium. However, eikaiwas dont mind if you join kenko kokumin hoken because the teacher has to pay 100% of the bill.

Most eikaiwas will encourage to join their own bullshit private scheme such as Intergobal or more infamously, JMA (for all of you Nova teachers) out there. Why do they encourage their workers to in fact break the law by not enrolling into the Japanese government health scheme. Because these companies make a comission on how many policies they can see for the company. The eikaiwas dont care about the teachers, they only care to make the yens.

If you are concerned about Shakai Hoken and the ramifications of these new change in immigration policy, contact the General Union. The GU is currently battling with various companies to enroll their workers in Shakai Hoken.

If you have any questions or concerns about Shakai Hoken or the Japanese Health system scheme overall in Japan, feel free to contact the GU or see our website at www.generalunion.org.

There are going to be many teachers that are going affected by this new change in policy. Teachers must know what is going on around them in order to better their lives and the lives around them. This regulation affects everyone.

When I worked in Tochigi prefecture years ago I went to city hall to get my insurance. They said, "No, you have to get insurance through your company." When I went to my company they said, "No, you have to go to city hall." This is about the same time I got my spousal visa so I wound up getting insurance through my wife. This company had a branch in a small town in Ibaragi prefecture that did allow teachers to get insurance. So all my co-workers used that one address and went to that town's city hall to get insurance.

Under the new policy I suppose immigration officials could well notice the fake address and deny your application. Has anyone else had this problem recently?

The reason most companies avoid this more than any other is that it is CRAZY expensive. For most small eikaiwa's you are talking about a 5%-10% increase in costs in some cases. 70% of the budgets go to salaries. With most language schools struggling in the current market (GEOS in particular at the moment) their already razor thin margins, or already negative margins get whacked.

Most good companies would like to enroll it is just REALLY REALLY expensive. The weird thing is that even without insurance getting treatment in Japan is extremely cheap. If you break a leg it costs a few hundred dollars to get it set and a cast put on etc. In the US for example you would be talking 3-5000 dollars.

Optional coverage by alternative plans are a reasonable option that most governments support. Japan's government has overspent to a huge degree and has a national debt that puts the US to shame.. thus this is just one more way to get more tax like revenue in the door for what is a great but very inefficient and expensive medical system.

And yes most of the insurance companies give a commission / kickback to the schools. Ask your school, and hopefully they are being honest and giving that back to you in cost savings.

I just don't like being TOLD I have to choose ONLY 1 plan. That is crap if you ask me.

When you figure out how much it would cost an eikaiwa on a per instructor/ per month basis it's not enough to kill any company - the Instructor and the School each pay into Shakai Hoken equal amounts. A very small school with 2 teachers would need to pay about 50,000 yen per month for SH (correct me if I am wrong I am using old numbers) that comes out to $500 a month -

The example used where getting a broken leg set and cast for cheap is not good : what if you have complications? what if you had a compound fracture of your leg while skiing and the skin was broken and you got gangrene from the rented ski boots? Holy S*it let me tell you about expensive IV antibiotic treatments and hospital stays. Nice clean legs breaks ? I never seen that happen

SH is the law, and the old argument that instructor should not have to go on SH is a bad one because it ONLY benefits the company, never the employee

Ideally, your company should tell you all of the health insurance options available - SH, KKH, private ones - as opposed to selectively telling you about it, to try and steer you away from getting Shakai Hoken.

For example, Nova would tell you you could get their JMA plan, or else sort out your own coverage - but they never said what other coverage you could get.

Interac, as I recall, told you that SH wasn't worth it because, in the 2nd year, you'd have an X,000 yen premium - but they didn't tell you that they paid half of it.

Similar to what you said, they basically told you that you had to choose one plan.

That was (and probably still is) crap.

The Ripper

"The GU is currently battling with various companies to enroll their workers in Shakai Hoken."

this is the same battle that pushed NOVA to collapse and the same battle that is driving the industry to use dispatch companies !!

the union will be the ruin of us all!

The question is WHY are they "battling" to get workers enrolled in SH. I'd say it's less to do with concern for workers' health, and more to do with venting bad feeling towards companies, trying to force them to pay their dues, and get less kickback from any private health insurance they promote.

This is the real reason I think for the Union's action here, and I'd question their motivations behind this. Fair enough, eikaiwa companies tend to do whatever they can to save themselves a quick buck, but I think there are far more important and immediate issues the Union could be investing time and effort into that would potentially be of greater benefit to teachers, as opposed to getting one over on companies.

The Ripper

If the GU continues this battle, all teachers will end up being part-timers! Schools will offer neither full-time status NOR health insurance!

First of all Shakai Houken is not just health insurance - it is a pension scheme (kosei nenkin) and a health insurance scheme (kenkou hoken).

To be sure there are Eikaiwas out there who cynically avoid this system to the detriment of their long term teachers - and misrepresent details to their teachers. However, there are also many teachers out there who wish to avoid being enrolled in a system that they have no knowledge of, is not particularly easy to navigate if you dont understand Japanese, and by most accounts is not well managed.

With regards to the pension part of Shakai Houken, most teachers dont stay in Japan long enough to get any real benefit from it. Its just salary disappearing out of your bank account every month. Yes, you can claim it back, but its bit nebulous as to how much you actually get back and its more admin and paperwork followed by a wait of however many months till (some of) the money gets back to you. Also, if you are paying money back into a retirement scheme in your home country it gets quite expensive. Throw in student loans on top of that and its pretty hard to scrape by.
If you plan to stay in Japan long term, its a good thing, but for everyone else, there isnt any benefit that Im aware of.

Having health insurance is an absolute must ! But (personally) I quite like to have a private overseas (English speaking) company taking care of my insurance. Its just easier to deal with them and to understand what Im getting. Its also cheaper than the Shakai Hoken payments. Its a matter of personal choice, and I would choose not to take part in the scheme. Im not about to defend NOVA or their JMA scheme but not all schemes are, as you so delicately put it "bullshit". If you want to use the system, please do (and your employer should support you in that) but please dont drag every other teacher in the industry along with you.

Let's just remember that the standard penalty for people who haven't been paying for national helath insurance, and then get caught and/or forced and/or volunteeer to join is up to 2 years back payments of whatever period you should have been enrolled and paying, but weren't.

Some people claim that if an employer was supposed to have enrolled you in shakai hoken, then those payments (including your 50%) are the responsibility of the employer. Who knows how it works out in the real world?

Will there suddenly be a second wave of gaijin leaving Japan when faced with the ultimatum of "pay up 2 years of kenko hoken and pension dues or you get no work visa"? That can easily reach 1,000,000 yen for some.
Or will there be leniency?

Let's also keep in mind that the Union did not kill Nova with the quest for shakai hoken.
Though maybe they helped hammer home one of the last few nails in the coffin.

Saruhashi killed Nova through mismanagment, over-expansion, corruption, embezzlement, and a business model based on selling more contracts and lessons than the schools could ever actually provide. Nova dodged the shakai hoken bullet with the 29.9 hour/ time between lessons isn't actually "work" bullshit.
Other eikaiwa could easily make up for shakai hoken; just get rid of the expensive gaijin middle managers and trainers who never actually teach lessons (thus don't make any money for the company)

I think the Union should leave this alone personally. It's wrong that a Union that consists of a tiny fraction of teachers should be forcing companies to enrol everyone in Shakai Hoken, purely because, from what I can see, they want to get one over on eikaiwa companies, and not out of concern for teachers' health and well-being as they claim.

It's basically the same selfish, self-interested and aggressive behaviour that you see from eikaiwa as well.

Personally I think the best solution is to have an "opt out" from the pension portion of SH/KKH for any non-permanent residents. That would be a much more sensible solution, and it would be much better for the Union to fight for this instead.

The Ripper

Let's be clear about this - all companies that don't enrol you in SH are breaking the law. If they're prepared to break the law like that, then I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them, and you have to wonder what other shenanigans they're prepared to get up to.

The reason companies don't enrol people in SH is purely to save themselves money, which again shows you the mentality of the industry. So straight off the bat we can already see what kind of people are running eikaiwa.

As to your other points, it's questionable whether going private is cheaper than SH, considering that your company pays half the premium. That's something that should be checked carefully.

With regard to the difficulty of "navigation" of the details of Shakai Hoken, the best thing is to register with your Embassy who should be able to give you all the necessary info about it. That way you can gain some knowledge of it, and make a better decision about which insurance scheme you want.

You say there isn't any benefit of SH, but I'd be wary of overseas private insurers operating in another country. I don't see any evidence that they are better managed than Social Insurance Agency, or provide better benefits, not to mention the fact that they aren't based in Japan. That could throw up a variety of problems.

I agree with your point about the pension part of SH though. As I said in the other post, ideally companies should enrol everyone in SH, but there should be an "opt out" of the pension portion. That, to my mind, would be the most sensible system.

Yes Ripper, how many more examples must we see of Eikaiwa writing the rules for themselves? They are a lawless bunch of thieves – absolute criminals. I pity ANYONE who works for them, I really do. What Eikaiwa stands for really, is quite revolting, so much so, even thinking about what Eikaiwa is really about, makes me feel like vomiting, it really, really does. One person that used to post in here, who thought about Eikaiwa too much, well he projectile vomited. Seriously, that's how bad it is. Eikaiwa is a sick, sick, sick institution, and really should be shut down. Eikaiwa operators need to be criminally charged, and bought to justice.

THORN

It is a pretty sad, sick business I think. Great if you've got absolutely nothing else you can do in life, and are happy to go absolutely nowhere, and to be treated like some sort of disposable napkin with pretty much zero dignity.

I think the only vague bit of dignity you can get out of eikaiwa is if somebody comes in genuinely wanting to practice and improve their English. At least you can attempt, however naively, to give them a few pointers perhaps, even though it's likely to be a fairly fruitless task.

As for the rest of eikaiwa customers, let's face it, the mentality of people who want to hand over good money to be "entertained" by some gaijin "chipmunk" is, well, what else can one say - sad in the extreme.

The Revulsion that is Eikaiwa

Mr. Ripper, what actually does motivate some of the students really is quite twisted.

Clearly, it is not all about learning English.

For some it is, but for countless thousands, it definitely is not.

It all seems quite cute and funny, when you first come across odd ball students, but by our own societal definitions and standards, many of those students would be classified as having personality disorders (in other words, as being mentally ill).

The novelty of being confronted by “quirky” students soon wares off.

All Eikaiwa teachers can vividly recall that overwhelming feeling of being chronically indisposed, all energies zapped in an instant, after walking into the teacher’s room, ready to start the day, only to see that crazy student’s name, on their schedule, yet again.

What the fuck? What is the matter with this person? Why are they stalking me? Is God trying to torture me? Oh God I hate this place………….

You know the feeling well, looking at that name in one of your boxes – a mixture of anxiety, frustration, and helplessness – not knowing if you should bash the wall with your fists, or simply bury you head in your hands, and cry.

I could write out a list of the types of nuts you come across in the Eikaiwa “student” population – certainly, most can be classified into various groups (syndromes), but I can’t face it just now – I need to stop typing - just thinking about is making me get a giant headache………so glad not to be an insect in a bottle anymore.

THORN

Talking about revulsion and eikaiwa, I have noticed a few nauseating things about the wrapped in plastic half life of gaijin in Japan, but what I have found that really takes the cake on the disgusting front in eikaiwa is the state of their toilets. In general, in Japan, most toilets in private businesses can only be described as being pristine, to say the very least, but in eikaiwa, they are often quite dirty, contaminated and stained with faeces, and other bodily wastes. I found it extremely hard, having to endure two 45 minute lessons in a row with a half crazy student, well groomed of course, but with rotten teeth that stank to high heaven, only to then face an eikaiwa toilet that was small, foul smelling and filthy dirty.

"many of those students would be classified as having personality disorders (in other words, as being mentally ill)."

Thorn, just for the record, YOU are the biggest freak, it has ever been MY misfortune to know.

That statement is SO rich. You have absolutely no idea how much of a sorry twat you are, do you?

Now, don't take that wrong...

Please, don’t let me rain on your parade. Continue to enjoy and make the most out of your Eikaiwa experience and journey.

Happy Days, and God Speed !!!

THORN

Hey, check out this pretty snazzy lesson plan:

http://www.breakingnewsenglish.com/0503/050322-halitosis.html

It's a really good one, and pretty relevant for eikaiwa students.

THORN

That lesson plan is so funny Thorn. I can remember so clearly being fumigated by not so pleasant mouth smells in those tiny rooms at Nova and later at Berlitz. Perhaps delivering that lesson would give those skin and clothes clean, but a different story when it comes to hygeine of the interior of the mouth, STUDENTS a bit of a hint in the right direction.

As for Eikaiwa, I have to say I am not surprised it has fallen to pieces. Everyone who has ever had anything to do with it, really does know it is not a heatlhy place to be.

Berlitz are typical Ekaiwa crooks by the way.

God, all you poor sods. I truly, truly feel for you. I taught English in Osaka for five years, from '88 to '93. The students were pretty much witless slobs (I know; I married and divorced one), the staff were robotic drones more suited to herding cats, the management was corrupt to the teeth and I felt very much like James Clavell's dude in King Rat. No need to mention who I was working for -- they were controlled by the yakuza, and besides, it doesn't matter who you're working for if you're in Japan.

The Japanese have no soul -- it must be told. And if you're working for them they'll work your soul out of you.

Gambatte, naaa!

>The students were pretty much witless slobs (I know; I married and divorced one)

Well, you're a sucker and a moron, then. No matter who you marry, or where, if you didn't see what they were before you married, you deserve to be ridiculed.

>The Japanese have no soul -- it must be told.

Well I'll take your word for it - you seem able to make quck, shrewd, and incisive judgements about human nature.

Have a great day, Nick, you profound, racist, irredeemable loser, you.

Yes, how dare Nick suggest that the Japanese have no souls, almost as if they are robotic, group oriented organisms, with few human characteristics at all, munching there way through "whatever", beause they can't think for themselves.

And the racist tone, in Japan/when talking of Japan, of all places - how dare he!

How dare he! How dare he! How dare he! Doesn’t he understand, largely through Eikaiwa, Japan for twenty years has been trying to internationalise, with heart felt emotion?

People should be happy, to at least have a job in Japan, and through English language, gap the bridge existing between cultures, for international peace, understanding and co-operation, taking into account, it was based on this philosophy, that Eikaiwa came to exist to begin with.

Human interaction, and heartfelt human emotions - these are the watch words, that Eikaiwa is built on, for crying out loud.

THORN

Japan does mess some people up eh? People who stay 10+ years do tend to end up going more and more weird, especially if they're trundling along in a bog standard eikaiwa job, a loveless marriage to a Japanese wife who wants to control their every move, and being stared at like a baboon on a daily basis.

The Ripper

Mr. Ripper, I can see where you are coming from, but perhaps you could be a little less blunt.

Next minute you will simply be saying “Eikaiwa is for Losers, END OF”, and that being the case, while true, we will then be robbed of your poetic touch, and our reading enjoyment shall consequently be somewhat diminished.

Heaven forbid.

My advice to you, try to be the iron fist in the velvet glove, not the iron fist swinging the tungsten steel sledge hammer, while wearing gloves made of porcupine spikes.

Thankyou, and good day to you Sir.

THORN

PS: Eikaiwa is for LOSERS, END OF

thorninnovasvagina,
that was a very funny response!

the best solution is to have an "opt out" from the pension portion of SH/KKH for any non-permanent residents. That would be a much more sensible solution, and it would be much better for the Union to fight for this instead.

It seems I touched a few raw nerves with that last posting. Understandable though, I think it's a phenomenon that many in eikaiwa in Japan suffer from, but would prefer to ignore.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is - get out of eikaiwa now, if not sooner, coz the longer you stay in it, the harder it's going to be to get out of it, and the greater the likelihood that all the things mentioned above will come true.

The Ripper

What's your poison, Mr Ripper! Bottoms up!!

Just curious. I run my own school. Do I count as being in Eikaiwa?

All the comments above are pretty much true. Cheap and crappily managed eikaiwa rip-off companies like Geos, GABA, iTTTi Japan (Crappy Kids Club).... cheat the foreigners working in Japan. They hire anything to front the pathetic and stupid lessons. They're full of low paid and low quality unprofessionals...geez I'm stating the bleeding obvious...

Yes my advice is to get out of eikaiwa before you lose all your brain cells. If you wanna stay in Japan next year then backpay what you owe in NHI payments to the govt. Stop breaking the law!

My advice is simple -

EXTERMINATE EIKAIWA!!!

EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

THORN

I do wonder if this is going to solve anything. The unskilled unprofessionals that moved to Japan to work are not going to react well, but then again visa applications can be very very tedious and long, perhaps its right for this tightening up to happen?

I heard that Peppy Kids Club, iTTTi have executed some big cuts recently at the expense of the poor workers and teachers. There are many unhappy employees there who'd rather be elsewhere.

I have 3 friends who used to work for Peppy. They all got royally screwed. 2 of them used to work for Nova and said that Peppy was actually WORSE than Nova, if that is at all possible. From the stories that they told me, I believe it. Be warned. Stay away.

I'm not at all surprised. My friends had bad stories too from lack of support to big cost cuts that are making everyone sour and unhappy. How can you teach with a smile for the paying customer when all motivation and support is taken away from you?

PKC robbed me of my final pay and they're so unprofessional about everything. Everyone I know honestly hates them.

You know what? I've heard that from sooo many people who worked there! That sucks! I hope you sued them! God, I wish someone would take that company- and all those crappy eikawas- to court and make public all the nasty stuff they do. What is going on with the eikaiwa industry in Japan? Isn't there any kind of regulation or protection of foreign workers? Surely it is a sizable and vocal bunch? A political force in some way- these are the teachers. If they politicize perhaps they can get some support from either their students or the public. The law surely isn't doing much for english teachers, that much is obvious. I say unionize, politicize ---- and hope that Japan can finally get its head out of its ass and evolve. So that finally we'll be recognized.

I can't believe that this accused pedaphile actually got employed by Peppy Kids Club, KTC, iTTTi Japan or whatever they wanna call themselves and was teaching for several years in a classroom full of Japanese kids ALONE. If I was a parent I'd be totally shocked and angry!!! I'm glad they caught Orville Mader and hope he gets sent to Thailand or wherever he committed those crimes and put away in jail for the rest of his life. What's even better, cut his balls off...

Little wonder an accussed pedaphile got through Eikaiwa's screening net, because, THERE ISN'T ONE.

All Eikaiwa wants is to meet, in terms of obligation, is "to the best of their knowledge", Japanese governement visa requirements (and they bend the rules in that department anyway, as you all know).

They seriously don't really check anything. As long as you appear to have met visa requirements, for "legal" employment, Eikaiwa could not give two hoots.

That's why most of the upper management you find in Eikaiwa are either deranged, have drinking issues OR are very good at acting.

Eikaiwa does not know or care about who they employ. They just care about projecting a paper thin "image", and meantime concentrate on collecting money in advance from brainwashed consumers.

Eikaiwa really is disgusting. Unscreened, unqualified employees, with God only knows what history, thrown in solo with the children of Japan, essentially unsupervised.

God also only knows, what really goes on behind the closed doors of those kiddies classes. I feel sick to the stomach, thinking what the reality actually could be.

Sadly, it is possible Eikaiwa has become a haven for the very worst kind of perverts and misfits.

Someone really needs to properly regulate and monitor the employment practices of those cash in advance YEN collectors, before an innocent child is hurt (if that has not happened already).

And here we have the GEOS rump in NA focusing this year on summer camps for youngsters. It is to be hoped that some sort of child-check on those involved with the children is being undertaken.

OMG!

The potential of unscreened, unqualified instructors, with God only knows what kind of histories, on the loose in Summer Camp with kiddies, really does invite potential disaster.

I thought it was bad enough in Japan itself, but outside Japan too?

Protection of children is the corner-stone of any civilised society. Is anything being done? I find this all extremely alarming.

In Japan, how on earth can mothers and fathers place so much trust in these "institutions", when exactly how untrustworthy they are is now such common knowledge?

It is almost as if Japanese consumers like playing with fire.

My God, risking the safety of your own child, and leaving them alone with a total stranger, whose background is essentially unknown to parent and employer, is pushing the boundaries of recklessness to the extreme.

I am totally sickened by the negative potentials that exist.

Something needs to be done, for the sake of the kiddies.

Well I want to know what popular opinion is.

Does Eikaiwa have a pedophile problem or not?

There is an old saying we have back where I come from, and it goes, where there is smoke, there is fire.

Would seem to me, the unscrupulous nature of Eikaiwa operators could open the door for penetration of the industry by pedophile networks.

Has anyone witnessed any odd behavior?

Certainly, I was concerned about the quality of some of the instructors I encountered. While many had issues, and some were darn right perverted, I cannot confidently say I came across any instructor I considered may have been a pedophile, but I must say quite strongly, there were some instructors, for other reasons, I would have never left alone in the company of children.

This is a very serious issue that has been raised. Does anyone know of any measures that any Eikaiwa takes, beyond lip-service, to adequately protect it’s juvenile students from sexual predators?

My guess is, they do absolutely nothing, and that the children who attend Eikaiwa could thus be considered to be at risk.

Eikaiwa really is disgusting. Unscreened, unqualified employees, with God only knows what history, thrown in solo with the children of Japan, essentially unsupervised.

God also only knows, what really goes on behind the closed doors of those kiddies classes. I feel sick to the stomach, thinking what the reality actually could be.

Sadly, it is possible Eikaiwa has become a haven for the very worst kind of perverts and misfits.

Someone really needs to properly regulate and monitor the employment practices of those cash in advance YEN collectors, before an innocent child is hurt (if that has not happened already).

Why are you heaping all this pedophile crap on eikaiwa teachers?? I get the feeling you think that westerners are the only people on the planet that molest children and thats pure nonsense.

There are safeguards in place to protect children at eikaiwa. ALL children classes have LARGE windows that allow staff and parents to view the lessons from the lobby and some places have installed video cameras as well as an extra precaution...but not for molestation but to see if the children are behaving themselves....and its completely normal for parents to watch the whole lesson...not on the fears their children are being molested by a foreign teacher...as the parents are interested in seeing how the lessons are being taught and if their child is behaving. So, your assertion that classes are behind "closed doors" is bullshit and misleading...and down right FALSE. Making such assertions leads me to believe you have never worked or stepped foot in an eikaiwa or english school in Japan...so how the hell would you know anything about eikaiwa, if you cant even describe what a children lesson room looks like??
In the number of years I have worked in eikaiwa...I have never heard of any teacher molesting any children, anywhere..ever.

I dont know what sick angle you are trying to play...but do you fucking research and you will see that owning child porn in Japan is perfectly legal....oh, wait..are you gonna say that western people come here to buy it?? Bullshit again...because its not sold at the corner store...you have to know people or know the special shops that sell it. These child porn dealers dont want any business with foreigners, for the fear they are undercover jouranlist or foriegn cops gathering evidence against them. BECAUSE, ITS ILLEGAL TO SELL OR DISTRIBUTE CHILD PORN IN JAPAN. These dealers will sell ONLY to trusted JAPANESE customers. So, I say Good Luck to any foreigner looking to purchase child porn, because they are not gonna get it. You seem to think child molestation and child porn is just in the realm of white people...you are fucking sick and misinformed. Japan is one the largest child porn producing countries in the world....and its not made for the international market..its made for Japanese men and the domestic market.

If there are really western child molesters roaming Japan...then there are PLENTY of young children walking the streets on their way from school at night...in the dark....they play by themselves in the park or by the river....PERFECT places for molesters to hangout. PLENTY of opportunities for western molesters to make an attack...BUT wait!!!! I have NEVER heard of western teacher or a eikaiwa teacher commiting sexual assualt on children in Japan!! All I ever hear is JAPANESE men who commit these crimes.

If you have a problem with how Japanese companies and eikaiwas screen their applicates, then this NOT the proper forum for your concerns.

Coming on LJ to make false assertions of child molestation is just bullshit and nasty. Dont come on here and paint eikaiwa teachers and english teachers as child molesters..because thats NOT true at all. Its obviouse from you post you dont even know what a eikaiwa school looks like. You are fucking SICK and need HELP.

Tokyo Concerned and Jane Hall is the same person....SAME writing style and SAME theme.

What accusations?

My feeling is that no accusation was made, but rather, concern showed, since everyone knows that Eikaiwa Instructors are not adequately screened, and Eikaiwa pretty much has a policy of "anyone will do", as long as they show they can tick boxes X, Y and Z.

I think it was more a case of saying "this is possible", rather, than it being the case.

And, of course, it there are any cracks, then they should be filled in.

I know of a school, one of the big ones actually, that conducted kiddies classes in a room that had no interior window at all.

Well, not exactly. It did have a small one, on the door, but once that door was shut, well, who knows what could have gone on, especially when one takes into consideration, some instructors are very much an unknown entity. Nothing I hope, but who knows.

Yes, one likes to think nothing untoward at all, but in actuality, who actually knows?

Look, if there was a problem at PKK, which started this entire thread, then there could be a problem anywhere, no?

The facts are, Eikaiwa does not do background checks, and in most cases, well, you cannot say that the instructors that are actively engaged in taking care of and educating the kiddies, are qualified to do so.

In addition, Japan does seem to attract a certain type, and to be honest, there are many male instructors, in particular, who do seem to have sexual issues / sexual frustration issues / inappropriate sexual behaviour issues. Don't you think so?

I think a good idea, that measures be put in place, to make sure, instructors in charge of kiddies, are properly screened, in the interests of those kiddies, especially since you suggest, child molestation etc is so common.

Yes, yes indeed, the more safeguards, the better.

Paedophila generally speaking is not a disease very often suffered by people in their 20s. Also, paedophiles engage in a high degree of grooming activities before acting out: something that would be very difficult to accomplish if you are a foriegner with weak language skills. So, for those and other reasons, I would say that the chances of it occuring in Eikaiwa schools is a lot less likely than in other environments: although it always could.

I have come across plenty of stories, however, of young eikaiwa instructors hitting on schoolgirls and if I were a parent of 16+ girl who was in any way forward in her behaviour, then I would be wary of sending her to an eikaiwa without checking out what the system of controls at that particular institution was.

Eikaiwa does not do background checks, and in most cases, well, you cannot say that the instructors that are actively engaged in taking care of and educating the kiddies, are qualified to do so.

And what are you going to do about it?? Come on LJ and fill up the threads with bullshit, NOBODY on here can do anything about??

If you got concerns...take it up with the appropriate Ministry or the cops...oh, wait..you are a fucking foreigner...they wont listen to you. What makes you think we can do something?? We cant...SORRY...you are talking to the wrong people.

I have come across plenty of stories, however, of young eikaiwa instructors hitting on schoolgirls and if I were a parent of 16+ girl who was in any way forward in her behaviour, then I would be wary of sending her to an eikaiwa without checking out what the system of controls at that particular institution was.

Sounds like a jealously issue with you....you wouldnt plump..a little extra weight...have cankles??

Looking at 16 or 17 year old girls might seem unpleasant to the minds of some overly sensitive westerners...but in JAPAN...its perfectly acceptable. Girls as young as 14 offer themselves for sex in exchange for money on certain websites...SORRY again...but NO foreigners...Japanese men ONLY...ha, looks like the pedophile white guys stikes out again.

You got a problem with western teachers ogling 16 or 17 yr. old girls...maybe you should go to the cops and make a complaint...oh, wait you are fucking fat, white foreigner...they dont care what you think. Besides...its NOT illegal anyways. How about informing the school manager?? Naaahhh...that wont work..they dont like snitches and people rocking the boat and you would find your fat ass on the street...or your contract not renewed. You are screwed again!!

Sounds like you have a problem getting male attention. But thats your problem.

Yes, I would have to say, male instructors hitting on school girls, as sick as that may sound, is something I regret to advise I have heard, off an on, is quite a common phenomenon in Eikaiwa.

I agree, if I were a parent whose teenage child wanted to attend Eikaiwa, I would like to know the system of control that they have in place. I would certainly not be happy with hearsay. I would like to know the policy, in detail.

I think it is possible that there are many people, who know of cases where instructors have got themselves into very deep water with Japanese minors, and, assuming that is the case, it would suggest to me, there could well be a lack of control systems in Eikaiwa, to deal with that very serious issue.

Yes, I would have to say, male instructors hitting on school girls, as sick as that may sound, is something I regret to advise I have heard, off an on, is quite a common phenomenon in Eikaiwa.

I agree, if I were a parent whose teenage child wanted to attend Eikaiwa, I would like to know the system of control that they have in place. I would certainly not be happy with hearsay. I would like to know the policy, in detail.

I think it is possible that there are many people, who know of cases where instructors have got themselves into very deep water with Japanese minors, and, assuming that is the case, it would suggest to me, there could well be a lack of control systems in Eikaiwa, to deal with that very serious issue.

Again.....this is not problem unique to eikaiwa or western people. You sound completely IGNORANT about Japan and its culture. You MUST be a NEWBIE. Just because you say its a problem in your western country does NOT mean its a problem here.

Its PERFECTLY NORMAL for j-men to ogle young teenage females in Japan and there is NOTHING you can do about it!! Its also COMMON for J-men to pay underage girls for sex!! Can you believe it?!?!?! You probably cant...because you are a NEWBIE! How about going to a bookstore and look at the pre-teen idol magazines that are available for purchase....these pre-teen idolas were skimpy swimwear and hide their tits and puss behide leaves! AND ITS LEGAL HERE!!

If you think western eikaiwa teachers are sick for ogling...then you in are for major shock...because sexual nastiness is common in this culture!! Naked young, underaged girls are desired by J-men!! Having sex with underaged girls are desired by J-men and there is a BIG black market here on it!! AND the cops turn a blind eye to it!! Molesting a minor in Japan is lightly punished here!! Having sex with a underage girl is lightly punished here!!

If you cannot handle that...THEN GO BACK HOME!! YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE IN JAPAN!!! THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!

I think it is possible that there are many people, who know of cases where instructors have got themselves into very deep water with Japanese minors, and, assuming that is the case, it would suggest to me, there could well be a lack of control systems in Eikaiwa, to deal with that very serious issue.

yeah, why dont you tell your school manager about this "problem" or tell these students parents about how male teachers are discussing in private about the attractivness of a particular 16 yr. old or 17 yr. old?? Do that and you wont have a job anywhere in Japan. Sounds like you dont understand Japan and its culture. This kind of behavior crosses the line in N. America, but not in Japan. You need to accept this as fact and do your job or let it bother you and go home. Either way you will have to deal with it.

Its perfectly normal in Japan for female applicants to have their resumes and pictures passed around the office and the guys will choose which girl should be hired. Thats NORMAL here. Accept that. Its also normal for girls to be pressured into having sex with their male co-workers...sexual harrasment is common and the cops dont care and managers turn a blind eye to it. If a female worker compalins, they dont have a job anymore and will find getting a new job will be even harder with a negative reference from their former employer.

If you cant handle the way Japan is, then you should turn around and fly back home. NO amount double talk on morales and ethics will get you anywhere here. This is JAPAN.

Foreigners here stick out, and double standards are applied.

I remember being told by a certain eikaiwa teacher in Kyoto that, if he couldn't hit on students, he wouldn't find it worth teaching English in Japan. He was good-looking and got a lot of dates (with older students I should add). When an uglier colleague did the same, however, he got formal complaints filed against him and was nearly fired.

There were ALTs on the JET Programme who dated junior high school girls--and they were often considered the laughingstocks of the program at that locality.

I wouldn't suggest testing the 'relations with the minors' waters, but I know full well some are going to do so anyway. If you live in a conservative area, watch out.

Older guys trying to have relations with younger women is NOT unique to Japan. And in many places, not just Japan, it is considered an issue of professional standards when formal education comes into the picture--something that is often not a concern at eikaiwa except to the extent a company tries to impose rules and practices on its employees. For most, matters of morals and ethics are really "whatever you can get away with" (fortunately, most people are not pedophiles or statutory rapists).

From experience, so called teachers at Peppy Kids club were total retards, illiterate and had mental problems big time in the head.

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