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Postby Cyberfoxbat » Sun May 23, 2004 5:08 pm

Someone on a Polish Japan mailing list has asked about work in hostess clubs - because she got an offer of some "Ru Paul Agency".

My reply (shortend and translated/vulgarised):
DONT TRUST THEM!!
Mostly run/protected by yaks
Late hours of work
Risk of STD's, being pulled into prostitution, slavery, perverted salarymen, Immigration "problems", stalkers bla bla bla.....

Am I right?
A quick reply would be helpful - need to help the poor girl.......
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Postby Chris » Sun May 23, 2004 6:30 pm

Gad, hostess bars are so much like eikaiwa joints it ain't funny. I think it all depends on the luck of the draw. I've met hostesses here who were financing their second condo in Maui through the ole thigh rubbing trade and then there are the others...

Ground rules: Always keep your passport. Always keep your passport. And always keep your passport.

If your friend is going to get into hostessing, it would be a little better if her friend was recommending the place before she joined the club.

Some of those bars are pretty shabby.
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Postby Melodious_Thunk » Sun May 23, 2004 7:15 pm

There are some good places for hostesses to work, but I would be VERY wary of one that recruited foreigners overseas. In fact, I would STRONGLY recommend that this girl stay away. Being poor in Poland would probably be better than being a sex slave in Japan.
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Postby monkeypants » Sun May 23, 2004 9:16 pm

Tell her to watch 'Lilja 4-ever' first and then consider hostessing. It can (and does) happen anywhere.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/
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Postby valve-bouncer » Sun May 23, 2004 9:42 pm

Melodious_Thunk wrote:.......... a sex slave in Japan.

Where do I sign? :wink: :D :D :D


******DISCLAIMER*********- The above was in no way meant to diminish the very real problem of sexual slavery in Japan. :D
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Postby Cyberfoxbat » Sun May 23, 2004 9:59 pm

valve-bouncer wrote:
Melodious_Thunk wrote:.......... a sex slave in Japan.

Where do I sign? :wink: :D :D :D


Hope you have a family size tub of vasaline ready - oh - and don't forget about the special cussions/bed so you can sit/lie down after a hard nights "work".......

edit: added bold...
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Postby Smurfette » Sun May 23, 2004 11:01 pm

Melodious_Thunk wrote:There are some good places for hostesses to work, but I would be VERY wary of one that recruited foreigners overseas. In fact, I would STRONGLY recommend that this girl stay away. Being poor in Poland would probably be better than being a sex slave in Japan.

I totally agree with MT. Hostess bars may be like eikaiwa for Westerners who are already here and can get a visa by other means, but they're much more dangerous when they can control your visa and lie about visa laws. If she is very, very set on going, I would suggest that she talk to someone who has already come back in Poland who can recommend a reputable place. It's good to go over there with the mindset, "I won't give up my passport," but I can imagine that if a woman was alone in a room with a lot of shady men who say, "Give us your passport right now or else...," it would be very easy to give it up out of fear.
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Postby valve-bouncer » Sun May 23, 2004 11:04 pm

Cyberfoxbat wrote:
valve-bouncer wrote:
Melodious_Thunk wrote:.......... a sex slave in Japan.

Where do I sign? :wink: :D :D :D


Hope you have a family size tub of vasaline ready - oh - and don't forget about the special cussions/bed so you can sit/lie down after a hard nights "work".......

edit: added bold...

I don't think you're thinkin' what I'm thinkin'. :wink:
BTW I do have an industrial sized tub of Vaseline. I also have a bowling ball, a donkey and a video camera. Any ideas????? :D :D :D
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Postby Smurfette » Sun May 23, 2004 11:08 pm

valve-bouncer wrote:
Cyberfoxbat wrote:
valve-bouncer wrote:
Melodious_Thunk wrote:.......... a sex slave in Japan.

Where do I sign? :wink: :D :D :D


Hope you have a family size tub of vasaline ready - oh - and don't forget about the special cussions/bed so you can sit/lie down after a hard nights "work".......

edit: added bold...

I don't think you're thinkin' what I'm thinkin'. :wink:
BTW I do have an industrial sized tub of Vaseline. I also have a bowling ball, a donkey and a video camera. Any ideas????? :D :D :D

Ummm...ride the donkey over to the local bowling alley and practice your bowling game, using the vaseline because the holes on your ball are too small? Videotape your technique to critique later on. :wink:
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Postby valve-bouncer » Sun May 23, 2004 11:10 pm

Smurfette wrote:Ummm...ride the donkey over to the local bowling alley and practice your bowling game, using the vaseline because the holes on your ball are too small? Videotape your technique to critique later on. :wink:

That could work, not quite in the original script but there's all sorts of sick fuckers out there. :D
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Postby Cyberfoxbat » Sun May 23, 2004 11:34 pm

valve-bouncer wrote:Any ideas????? :D :D :D


You could try to give them your passport.......
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Postby angryboy » Mon May 24, 2004 9:51 am

Smurfette wrote: come back in Poland

Was that a mistake Smurfette or intentional?Either way I got a kick out of it. :rotfl:
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Postby Smurfette » Mon May 24, 2004 9:57 am

angryboy wrote:
Smurfette wrote: come back in Poland

Was that a mistake Smurfette or intentional?Either way I got a kick out of it. :rotfl:


Oops! :oops: :oops: :oops: I had originally written "someone back in Poland," but I wanted to make it clearer that the friends had been to Japan and come back TO Poland. I was a little sloppy in my revising. Gomen, ne?
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Postby angryboy » Mon May 24, 2004 10:00 am

I thought maybe you have been influenced by your students a bit too much.
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Postby Smurfette » Mon May 24, 2004 10:18 am

No, my students would say, "someone who be back in..." and they probably couldn't name Poland as a country!
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Postby Cyberfoxbat » Mon May 24, 2004 5:54 pm

Shared room + 180000Y monthly
90day contract (strangely enough a tourist visa lasts exactly that long..)
Airfare paid both ways (then deduted from deposit)
1st months pay kept as deposit
2nd months pay paid ot 10 days after 2 month's work
3rd months pay paid on last day with deposit (or whats left of it)
Until first paycheck 7000Y paid weekly + part of tips.

Sounds like a rip off to me.... keeping them at their mercy with most of the pay paid out (if ever) on the last day.

Anyway - their www site says that the jobs in either Tokyo or Yokohama - would I be able to count on your help if she does go and things get nasty - just dropping her off to the polish embassy if you have the time - or telling her how to get there?
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Postby Smurfette » Mon May 24, 2004 7:07 pm

Cyberfoxbat wrote:1st months pay kept as deposit

Stop reading right there. Don't do it. Why would they need to keep one month's pay as "deposit" unless the conditions are bad enough that girls leave very quickly? BTW, airfare is not really "paid" if it is deducted from their salary.
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Postby Melodious_Thunk » Mon May 24, 2004 8:36 pm

Cyberfoxbat wrote:Anyway - their www site says that the jobs in either Tokyo or Yokohama - would I be able to count on your help if she does go and things get nasty - just dropping her off to the polish embassy if you have the time - or telling her how to get there?


I don't purport to speak for anyone else here, but in my own case, no, I'm not going to take care of some hostess I have never met who is here working illegally for what is probably the yakuza.
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Postby Cyberfoxbat » Mon May 24, 2004 10:08 pm

No prob - I myself am trying to talk her out of it - I'm not begging - I just wanted to give her some kind of backup if things go nasty - it's just something I'd do if someone was coming to my town........

I've told her about the risks and if shes going - it's her choice....... her risk.....

I know - sorry - forgot to put paid in " " marks............

Edit 1: added comment about " " marks
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Postby Laurenville » Tue May 25, 2004 5:35 am

are hostess bars the same as language lounges?
uh, which ways Japan from here?
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Postby Smurfette » Tue May 25, 2004 6:41 am

Laurenville wrote:are hostess bars the same as language lounges?

Sure, if you are talking about the "international language of love!" :D
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Postby Cyberfoxbat » Tue May 25, 2004 6:45 am

Most clients dont give a rats arse about what the hostesses are saying......... language exchange - more like fluid exchange........
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Postby BakaMike » Tue May 25, 2004 12:21 pm

Just wanted to echo Smurfettes sentiments. If she comes over on that deal then she`s going to get shafted - literally - and not paid for it!! If she`s pretty and she really wants to come over she would do better saving up her Zlotys and paying for her own airfare. She can then come in on a tourist visa and do a tour of all the clubs and hostess bars in Shibuya. She would probably do well to start by getting a job in a bar while she gets her feet and finds out which places will pay her and which places will shaft her. At least she`ll get to look at the place before she starts work and a good idea of what she will be expected to do after she starts.

If she comes over blind on the deal she`s been offered, and after the advice on this thread she deserves everything she gets.

If you want to know what she might get, check out this link posted some time ago by Ginzaman:

http://www.japantimes.com/cgi-bin/getar ... 0201a1.htm

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Postby Examination_Hell » Tue May 25, 2004 6:58 pm

Cyberfoxbat wrote:language exchange - more like fluid exchange.


Knew a NOva drone whose girlfriend's sister worked in a hostess club. Got knocked up didn't know who the father was!!

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Postby Bearcat » Tue May 25, 2004 7:14 pm

Here is how you can tell if working as a hostess fits you.

Get a hammer.

Repeatedly hit yourself in the head until it hurts so much you can't stand it and continuing would possibly cause you brain damage.

If at this point you have no problem to take the hammer and continue whacking yourself with it, then hostessing is for you.

This also can be applied to a few other jobs in Japan that we all know a love as well :)
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Postby Ojii » Tue May 25, 2004 8:05 pm

Laurenville wrote:are hostess bars the same as language lounges?


Aren't we gonna EXPERIENCE SOME CULTURE SHOCK!
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Re: Hostess work

Postby okazakiOm » Tue May 25, 2004 8:13 pm

Cyberfoxbat wrote:Someone on a Polish Japan mailing list has asked about work in hostess clubs - because she got an offer of some "Ru Paul Agency".


Yikes!
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Postby valve-bouncer » Tue May 25, 2004 9:25 pm

Examination_Hell wrote:
Cyberfoxbat wrote:language exchange - more like fluid exchange.


Knew a NOva drone whose girlfriend's sister worked in a hostess club. Got knocked up didn't know who the father was!!

EH

Doesn't surprise me, after all you don't which baked bean it was that made you fart now do you. :D
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